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Conservative Solutions To US Healthcare Reform Misrepresents


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by Dan Zimmerman 

There are several big lies that conservatives are spreading about healthcare reform that need to be discussed more. These are not the rationing or the death panel lies that the extremist right wingers have been throwing around. These are the rational sounding lies that make people go “well the death panel claims seem odd but this actually sounds like they are making a point”.

 

Conservatives are arguing that insurance reform can be achieved via the competition that would come with allowing insurance to be sold across state lines. There is, of course, one problem with that argument. Insurance can currently be sold over state lines. If you are a company that is based in Louisiana and you sell health insurance policies, you can absolutely go to another state and sell insurance products in that state. Many insurance companies do that today. So why do conservatives use this argument? Well, perhaps they want individuals to be free to buy an insurance product in another state because the insurance regulations of the state that person is living in doesn’t allow for a particular type of policy.

 

But what ever happened to the idea that states should have the 10th amendment powers to make laws governing what goes on within their borders (what conservatives typically call states rights)? Are conservatives abandoning their so called “states rights” principles and saying that people should be able to circumvent the insurance laws of their own state? Are they saying that insurance companies should be able to circumvent a state’s insurance regulations by marketing their products in states they are not licensed in? It must be since insurance companies already sell products across state lines and the only barrier to entry into a state market is obtaining a license for the product.

 

Another huge lie that conservatives are spreading is that if we had tort reform, it would bring the cost of providing healthcare down. This, by their argument, would then bring down the cost of insurance. However, the facts are against them in this argument as well.

 

Louisiana medical malpractice law currently limits the liability of a medical practitioner to $100,000, a relatively small amount compared to other states.

 

http://www.medical-malpractice-directory.com/info/damage-awards.htm

 

According to Families USA, since 2000 our health insurance premiums have risen 82.3%.

 

http://www.familiesusa.org/resources/newsroom/press-releases/2009-press-releases/la-costly-coverage.html

 

Kentucky, on the other hand, has no medical malpractice caps. You can sue a doctor in Kentucky for as much as you want. Their premiums have risen only 72.4%.

 

http://www.familiesusa.org/resources/newsroom/press-releases/2009-press-releases/ky-costly-coverage.html

 

Iowa, another state lacking medical malpractice caps, saw a 79.4% increase in premiums.

 

http://www.familiesusa.org/resources/newsroom/press-releases/2009-press-releases/ia-costly-coverage.html

 

So if states with no medical malpractice caps have seen smaller premium increases than states with conservative medical malpractice caps, doesn’t that invalidate the conservative argument that tort reform would help reduce costs?

 

Dan Zimmerman is a co-host of Dan and Dave on the Air which airs every Thursday at 5pm on WGSO 990 am or streaming at http://www.dananddaveontheair..com. Dan also maintains his own blog at http://blog.lj4a.com.  




 












 

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That's generally what happens when folks become better informed there Kp. I wish they would toss the whole thing on the yule tide fire and forget about it for awhile. Start all over. Approaches, cause and effect, reasonings, and then one can begin to think about logistics, bivouac, effciency, effectiveness, value, and on and on and on....
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Polls are showing a majority of American opposed to this "reform." November is looking better and better.
Written by kpf on 12/11/2009
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And of course there is Kj and her thinking I am ashamed of something with her little quip about a “disability check”. Well toot sweets, I am not ashamed of it at all. In fact, I have made bold mention of it on my website. Facts are I was working in the fields starting at about 8 years old cutting grapes, husking walnuts, herding sheep. I used to was and wax 18 wheelers for $10 bucks by myself to earn extra money. Mow yards, rake leaves, anything as a kid to make money… I was a dues paying card carrying Union Member at the age of 13. I was in and out of the United States Marine Corp with a discharge under Honorable conditions having served my time while my friends were still graduating from High School. I took my Vietnam Era G.I. Bill and went to dive school and ended up in Louisiana in support for the Offshore Oil and Gas Industry. I suffer tinnitus probably because of the white phosphorous grenade (Good ole Willey Peter that is a horror of horrors much akin to getting hit with a shotgun and napalm at the same time) that was tossed at my feet. I remember the wonderful disability checks I used to get that amounted to around $285.00 a month to live on (but then again, I paid into the Social Security fund, and so what if I had been working for around 12 or 13 years before I even hit 21) I remember major operations to correct my disability, I remember dropping it only to have to get back on it. I remember the Reagan Administrations SSI cutbacks and getting my disability reclassified. A year or so ago doctors at the V.A. thought I had Lou Gehrig’s disease. CAT scans, shock tests, etc., etc., etc. Turned out I simply suffer (as far as my new paralysis symptoms are concerned) from advanced degenerative arthritis that is eating my body alive and putting pressure or cutting off the functions of my spinal cord in my neck. Arthritis is pretty much consuming my body alive. The pain is blinding at times. Broken bones throughout my body, even walking on broken legs right now. The X-Rays would be horrifying to anyone and it is a wonder I still am able to walk. I suppose it is simply sheer will that makes me drag my ragged carcass around. Sure, a wheel chair is in my future. A very slow, painful, prolonged and agonizing death is my future. Yes, that is the future I get to look forward to. It is the future I am living now, it is the future I have been living for the past 30 years. Do I care? No, such is life. Those are the cards that have fallen my way. It is what it is, they are what they are, it will be what it will be. I have an IQ that would walk circles around the majority of folks out there. It is simply a blessing from God, or a curse depends on how a person looks at it. So I would suppose it all depends not so much on how I feel about myself, but rather what I feel for others. Do I feel sorry for myself? No, nor do I expect anyone else to, nor do I care if folks poke fun at me. Do I feel sorry for others? No, sadness at times perhaps, even a good deal of concern. Did I suffer a hard life? A difficult life? A life full of tragedy? Sure, some brought on by others, and some brought on by my own actions, wutever, such is life…… So who really cares? No Kj, I have no embarrassment, in fact, I get a good laugh out of some of the goofy things I have seen and done. Sort of helps to keep that human element intact I suppose. But one thing I do care about is smug, fart smelling jackasses that sit around and make life miserable for those that cannot defend their selves against it. Causing them to work for nothing, to do without, to go hungry, to be violated, to never be given an opportunity to improve their lot in life, to search out, or seek or actively participate in the bounty and wonders that are possible all because of a civilization that came into being that is known as the United States of AMERICA….. No, I am not talking to myself Kj, I am talking for every person out there that wish they could be heard and want to be heard. And I don’t expect anyone to do anything for me. Or for their selves that is honest for that matter. That is the nature of man when appreciation is nonexistent. So whatvever, Merry ChrisXKuanzikauh, and a slappy new year sistah . There is my little present for you, and it is a shame I am not allowed to provide more. It is a shame folks like to read about misery rather than the full potentials they can experience while they frequent this life for such a short, short, short span of time in comparison to what life and lives are really composed of in their cumulative years.
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-------"Breast Cancer is not a Democratic or a Republican thing, Mr.Dumas..." You are absolutely right KJ, we have found common ground…………….- - - -- What a gloriously naive opening there CN. For all medical or practical purposes Breast Cancer is a ‘woman’ thing………… Just like testicular torsion is, for all medical or practical purposes, a ‘man’ thing. Ahhhh, but most men do like female breasts, and most women do like men with balls that work so I suppose in a way the argument is co-dependent on each other…. The bottom line is there are those that cannot afford medical treatment, good or bad (I hear they are having a cut rate sale at the local witch doctors shop in New Orleans for medical and spiritual cure alls though) and there are those that can afford medical treatment, good or bad, that simply don’t want to pay for it, and there are those that can afford medical treatment, good, (or bad if they like to blow their money on stupid things like sweat huts for the spiritual experience of things) that don’t want to have to be forced pay for any of the previous groups of peoples lack one way or another on top of everything else this group of people demands as some kind of ‘God Given Right’ just because they exist on a patch of ground called the United States of America. And you are correct in pointing out at the end of your post there CN the observation you made. But mindless folks want to herd to Macy’s for some kind of distraction, and others herd to Wal Mart for the same thrill in life. I am not so sure that it is elite politicians but rather just folks that somehow found their way in the limelight and seat of citizen granted power or control that push buttons to apparatus that really have no understanding of how they work. And if they do, and a mistake is made, well, they don’t pay for it, average citizens do. Sort of reminds me of my friend Boudreaux (God Bless him). He went to put his boat overboard the other day to go to the camp. After backing it down the ramp and tying it off at the dock, he parked his truck and trailer in the parking lot, when he walked back to the dock his boat was gone! He had forgotten to put the plug in before putting overboard. All he saw was his bayou line tied to the cleat on the dock! Ice chests and life jackets floating around where his boat used to be. He came back to town and got me because he is sort of old and not as spry as he used to be. I went back to the landing and got his boat back up, and finished bailing it out for him. Then of course we had to go through the out board motor once we got it back to his house to get it working again. But still, this health care approach currently being embarked upon is something of the scope and nature that we can’t just bail the boat out, flush the carburetors’ out, and dry the wiring out to get it working again if we sink this boat. We will, for all practical purposes, never recover from a blunder such the 2000+ page bill they are trying to pass represents. It will signal or complete what will be the end to the added nice things we get to enjoy as Americans such as shopping at Macy’s versus Walmart. Not being able to go out of town and have a really nice Chicken Parmesan dinner versus a peanut butter po’boy, just little things like that. Not going to bother begging and pleading Kj, it doesn’t matter, she is so old she probably only has a few decades at best left to prance up and down the boulevard in New Orleans so why should she care anything about anyone else aside from her personal immediate family? She is the typical American on the street today….
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"Breast Cancer is not a Democratic or a Republican thing, Mr.Dumas..." You are absolutely right KJ, we have found common ground. But you like to politicize healthcare reform because that's what they tell you at the Carvelite meetings? This bill is terrible and your daughters will suffer because of it. This is not a republican/democratic issue it's elite politcians against the common everyday citizens. The Carvelites don't tell you that a majority of Americans are against this bill, they only tell you that most Americans are for reform, but they don't tell you it's not this reform they want.
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Well, while you are at Macy's check out their book section, I think they have a new book out with big pictures on the shelve called "Shopping for Morons" and another one entitled "Health care arguments for idiots"... I think both of those best sellers are sitting next to Sarah Palin's "Going Rogue" and they are chock full o' pictures so you can understand the intstructions easier........... ta-ta. Oh, and Merry ChrisXKuanzikauh, and a slappy new year sistah............
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CN- you want to argue with medical science?.. <g>.. No signigficant other in your life ? (er, female?).. You might not have a wife, or a special lady, or a daughter, or even a sister - but, surely you had a Mother... (maybe you were hatched)..... Breast Cancer is not a Democratic or a Republican thing, Mr.Dumas. ...............And, Smitty, when you stop talking to yourself, you can go cash your disability check...... I'm done with this topic, aholes-- but carry-on amongst yourselves.... I'll be Christmas shopping.. ti's the Season.. la la la... (btw, the road rage in the Macy's parking lot is almost lethal.)
Written by KjunLady on 12/9/2009
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On the last part of your post I totally agree with WB…. My personal thoughts on all the fuss and wasted time and manipulations and maneuverings on the topic of health care during this past year or so is that it needs to be shelved right now. This is such an easy topic to make provisions for (causing good healthcare policies and approaches into effect) it is sad when considering the long way around the mountain and the detriment in store for us if we allow them to ‘dish’ us up. Folks that are dreaming up our policies and laws are simply stuck on stupid. There are ways to cause improvements without driving the common folks to the poor house, the slave auction block, or the dungeon keep. 30, maybe 60 days and a well balanced approach can be formulated. A working solution that is not erosive or dividing. True American aspirations are dashed on a daily basis though, I guess this is just one more that is going to hit the rocks….. Oh well, what can one simply say? Enjoy your new reality folks, you worked hard for it and soon it will be yours.
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GREAT POINT!! We are all going to die, so why act as though without your government benefit you'll "just die" - 'cause you'll friggin' die anyway. So why not live with some dignity instead of living off your fellow citizens? The worst point of all the government spending is we can only "pay" for all the "goodies" we want by BOTH saddling future generations with debt and devaluing our dollar, which hurts the elderly middle class retirees more than any other group. Future generations should be grateful we cannot steal years off their lives, as we think nothing about stealing their earnings before they are even born.
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Interesting question CN, but it is sort of unnecessary. Perhaps a better question would be "How many women have died from breast cancer THAT HAD A GOOD HEALTH INSURANCE POLICY"... All through out history there have been billions and billions of people that wished they could live forever, and every one of them died trying........
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Does anyone have any data concerning the number of women who die of breast cancer that did not have health insurance.
Written by CN on 12/8/2009
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"Kj, mammograms do not prevent women from dying from breast cancer".. Absolutely wrong... Mammograms are "the" deciding device to detect a tumor (usually, once you "feel" a lump- you're already into another stage, sad. In other words , generally "by then" it's probably too late, for simple procedures anyway.. Unfortunately, WB, other cancers are not as clearly detected and decisively dealt with as BC... Don't ask me why (there's a small window -hence annual x-rays)--- As said before, if detected early BC is totally curable. Breast Cancer is rampid in Louisiana-- - (wonder which one of my 3 daughters is carrying the gene?.. What gene? - there are thousands, millions,... only two are identified. But, chances are very high at least one of my 3 daughters is also carrying the gene...... Aha-- Only two are insured.....But, don't want to make it all about me)... I know too many women who've found out too late- because they did not have insurance and regular preventative treatment, including mammograms... it's damn sad. (And, WB, so much money can be saved on chemo and multiple surgeries--- and rediation too.) Women don't get regular check-ups when they don't have insurance. Countless women die because they simply did not get a mammogram. Mammograms SAVE lives.
Written by KjunLady on 12/8/2009
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Hey KJ, Al Gore said to buy a unicycle and eat nothing but Popeyes fried chicken. Do you actually believe everything that comes out of the mouths of these bureaucrats? Do you ever check out anything on your own? Health care is great! We need it now! But you refuse to read the bill to see for yourself what a pile of crap this thing is? Amazing, simply amazing.
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Kj, mammograms do not prevent women from dying from breast cancer any more than drivers licenses prevent drivers from dying in automobile accidents. I am sure you have the ability to come up with some cruel and heartless jokes, however, your ignorance precedes you being as you labor under the delusion that I would give a rat’s bunghole about any callous attempt at macabre humor from you thweety….. Anyways, a little information for you a’la the world wide web: A University of Michigan Health Minute update on important health issues….. originally posted October 10, 2002…. ANN ARBOR, Mich. - Women may soon have a new weapon to use in the fight against breast cancer. It's minimally invasive and does not cause permanent disfigurement as with other procedures like a mastectomy, where the breast is entirely removed, or a lumpectomy, in which the cancer is removed from the breast and radiation therapy is often needed….. This potentially new treatment, called cryosurgery, is currently being studied by the University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center. Researchers are investigating the possibility that in addition to destroying the tumor, cryosurgery may stimulate the immune system to attack any remaining cancer cells, providing a better chance for survival for the approximately 200,000 women diagnosed with breast cancer this year alone…. In 2002, it's predicted that 40,000 women will die from breast cancer, making it the second leading cause of cancer death among women. However, cryosurgery may change those odds….. Cryosurgery involves making a very small incision in the skin. Using an ultrasound, a probe is placed in the center of the tumor to freeze and kill the cancer cells, says Michael Sabel, M.D., a surgical oncologist at the U-M Comprehensive Cancer Center…. "The tip of the probe gets extremely cold and essentially forms an iceball around the tumor," he explains. "That, in effect, kills all of the cancer cells, which allows the body to reabsorb the tissue so there's not a large defect in the breast."… In contrast to other techniques used to treat breast cancer, cryosurgery leaves the shell of the cancer cells intact. This allows the immune system to clean up the area, exposing the tumor proteins to the white blood cells…. And by exposing the immune system to the tumor, it may help prevent cancer from returning or spreading to other parts of the body - a common occurrence in breast cancer patients who are diagnosed after the cancer has already spread to the lymph nodes or beyond….. "I'm hoping that by freezing the tumor, the immune system will learn to recognize cancer and go out and destroy cancer in other parts of the body, the same way it looks for bacteria or viruses with certain proteins," says Sabel…. Cryosurgery is also used to destroy abnormal cervical cells and correct problems with inflammation or chronic discharge. In addition, cryosurgery has been used to treat tumors in the liver and benign lesions in the breast…. However, the effectiveness of cryosurgery as a treatment for breast cancer is still being investigated by the U-M Comprehensive Cancer Center. Currently, a trial is underway at the Center with women who are in the early stages of breast cancer…. In the trial, participants undergo cryosurgery followed by the procedure they would have otherwise had - either a lumpectomy or mastectomy - three weeks later. Using this process, researchers are able to find out if the cancer has been destroyed and if the immune system has been stimulated…. "I believe cryosurgery will be very useful in the future for treatment in the early stages of breast cancer," Sabel says…. To learn more about cancer and about research studies conducted at the U-M Health System, contact the U-M Comprehensive Cancer Center's Cancer AnswerLine at 1-800-865-1125. - - - - - - And for another thought on the subject because there are two sides to every coin; Cryosurgery for Breast Cancer - - - Cryosurgery has been developed since the 1960s to destroy benign and malignant tissues and is well established to treat a variety of neoplasm’s with minimal surgical risk. However, application of cryosurgery for the treatment of breast cancer does not seem to attract much attention and has been performed by just a few active cryosurgeons . . . . In the Fuda Cancer Hospital Guangzhou where authors work, of a total of 2500 patients with malignancy, 70 had breast cancer: 18 primary advanced and 52 recurrent, who underwent cryosurgery in the period from Mar 2000 to May 2006. . . . . So Kj, cryosurgery is nothing new, is applicable for breast cancer treatment procedures, has been utilized in breast cancer treatment procedures, and is probably a viable alternative in many cases which would even allow for lower costs. One of my key positions where all this health care debate is concerned, and how it should be immediately scrapped and shelved for recall and reexamination and approach at a later date when more cooler and calmer attitudes can prevail is this: The #1 consideration’(s) should be an examination and restructuring approach to current A.M.A. procedural implementations. Followed of course by a closer examination of the FDA, and finally the insurance industry/tort reform.. Then a more unified and modern approach to medical care and patient treatment which can be vastly more efficient and effective can perhaps be manifested into fruition… and Now in as far as early detection, well Kj, all I can say is a Boob inspector is probably one of a girl’s best friends. So toodle-loo and laddie dah to you and your bodacious ta-ta’s…….
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CN- you probably don't believe in global warming either... Do you believe in gravity? I can not convince closed minds of anything. But, I do understand your side of the debate-- but, HealthCare Reform is RIGHT for our country NOW.. It's way over due.
Written by KjunLady on 12/8/2009
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Dear KJ, it is in the plan...illegals will get coverage. C'mon girl you've studied the bill tell us specifics. Convince me that paying for this crap legislation for 5 years before the benefits kick in is something more than smoke and mirrors to make it seem that the bill won't cost in the trillions. Convince me that this bill that does away with Health Savings Accounts is good for me. Convince me that the government run medicare system which is has about $36 bazillion in unsupported debt is something to overlook when faced with another giant government run bureauracy. I'm listening.
Written by CN on 12/7/2009
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Crysurgery is freezing-- millions of women have had cryosurgery as outpatients- having nothing to do with breasts... CN- HealthCare Reform will cover all women, and men, (except non-citizens) and- Mammograms will prevent many more from dying needlessly. You two can't get me down-- looks like Congress WILL pass the bill before Christmas, Amen. (and, Smitty, the jokes that come to mind about you are cruel and heartless-- so I'll keep them to myself.... but, really funny)
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Almost forgot to mention cryosurgery to you KJ. Non nuclear, no radiation, however some side effects are the patients nipples might get hard during the proceedure... Again, cost, value, practicality, alternatives, and the list goes on and on and on.................
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Nothing like being kept abreast of current subjects there Kj…… I will have you know I am a qualified boob inspector. Glad to hear that you and your bodacious ta-ta's are still safe and sound, but it is udderly ridiculous for you to write that I posted something superfluous when it comes to figures. I realize you were perhaps trying to augment some kind of support for your points but after careful consideration I found them to be a bit pendulous and hope that I may perhaps help to sway your current positions. Nothing like having cups that runneth over I always say… As I wrote; It is a shame to die of any disease, but the numbers where they relate to cancer cases and or deaths do not warrant 2,000+ pages of “New Laws” being passed by congress with regards to how the care will be paid for. Health Care is a great idea, and it is do-able, but not under the current guise it is being fostered under. I believe this whole debate needs to be scrapped, shelved, and recalled at a later date (like starting next month from scratch) because really and truly what it boils on down to is there are those that want health care that can’t afford it and don’t know how to pay for it, there are those that want health care that can afford it and want someone else to pay for it, and there are those that are not interested in paying for either one of those two’s wants or needs if it impacts them substantially. Balance Kj, balance and implementation. Remember Kj, it is not always the best thing to be too top heavy, good sturdy legs to stand on are an asset as well.. And no, that was not just a bunch of cut and paste action there, I simply wanted to make sure that folks had some exposure to what is often hidden from view so that they could grasp a firm understanding of the size of the problem insuring that they might not be tempted to resort to a band aid approach when contemplating additonal support measures that might be needed to handle the issues.
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Mine as well KJ and how is health care reform going to help, specifically tell me how it will help find a cure or help someone with breast cancer. Since you are so knowledgeable about the 2,000 page bill, please tell me specifically how it's going to help and not hinder.
Written by CN on 12/6/2009
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kpf, radiation is cost-prohibitive, we're not talking Ripple and Lotto tickets....As a breast cancer survivor, I am grateful for today's medical advances, and I'm damn lucky my husband was gainfully employed to pay for my many thousands of dollars of healthcare. HealthCare Reform is imperative. And, Smitty, you copied and pasted some superflous figures and think that constitutes something?... stfu.....(and don't worry, Thweety- I still have my bodacious ta-ta's)
Written by KjunLady on 12/5/2009
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Oh I see KJ, numbers or facts has nothing to do with anything, it is all about you. How does posting numbers show insensitivity? How does stating that 2000+ pages of bovine scatology show insensitivity? There is nothing more special about breastcancer or breascancer awareness than there is any other ailment that humans can or do suffer. You display a typical Louisianan attitude, it is all about you and your perceived problem and no consideration of the big picture or the needs of others while they face their individual trials and tribulations. I cannot believe you are that shallow. And I know that you are not. So how about getting on a positive and promoting rather than tossing sand into the ballbearings? And understand this, 40 years ago breast cancer was pretty much undetectable, and time goes by. What do you want? More access to breast cancer detection wands? Great, no problem, figure out an efficient way to do that for more people and there is your answer. I have an answer right now, but no one is going to advocate it. I notice folks don't have any problem finding a great big sloppy ole po'boy, but past that, well, let me just say that the lack of motiviation is amusing..... It is odd, but by addressing and lump summing a group of problems into one basket it is easy to accomodate them on an individual basis...
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The truth is that any American can get mamograms at any age, they just have to pay for it. A few bottles less of Ripple, a few less lotto tickets, use the money instead for a mamogram; simple really.
Written by kpf on 12/5/2009
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CN, this topic is very close to my heart (literally)... I guess you're trying to tie-in Mammogram screening with the HealthCare debate-- anything to mangle the process.....And, I dare say, there musn't be a lady in your life.
Written by KjunLady on 12/4/2009
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You contradict yourself dear KJ. This mammogram issue is only the tip of the iceberg you know.
Written by CN on 12/4/2009
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Your insensitivity to Breast Cancer does not surprise me. Breast Cancer is one of the only cancers which is totally curable, "if" it's caught in time. If not- you die.
Written by KjunLady on 12/4/2009
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KJ, an estimated 41,000 women will die from the disease Breast Cancer this year. IN ORDER THE NUMBER OF ESTIMATED CANCER CASES IN NOTED BODY PARTS THAT WILL OCCUR THIS YEAR; * * * Skin (Nonmelanoma) >1,000,000 - - - Lung (Including Bronchus) 219,440 - - - Breast (Female - Male) 192,370 - - - Prostate 192,280/27,360 - - - Colon and Rectal (Combined) 146,970 - - - Bladder 70,980 - - - Melanoma 68,720 - - - Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma 65,980 - - - Kidney (Renal Cell) Cancer 49,096 - - - Leukemia (All) 44,790 - - -Pancreatic 42,470 - - - Endometrial 42,160 - - - Thyroid 37,200 - - - IN ORDER THE NUMBER OF ESTIMATED CANCER CASES IN NOTED BODY PARTS THAT WILL RESULT IN DEATH THIS YEAR; * * * Lung (Including Bronchus) 159,390 - - - Colon and Rectal 49,920 - - - Breast (Female - Male) 40,170 - - - Pancreatic 35,240 - - - Leukemia (All) 21,870 - - - Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma 19,500 - - - Bladder 14,330 - - - Kidney (Renal Cell) - - - - Cancer 11,033 - - - Melanoma 8,650 - - - Endometrial 7,780 - - - Thyroid 1,630 - - - Skin (Nonmelanoma) >1,000 - - - - You see Kj, you are taking your eye off the ball, and off the facts. It is a shame to die of any disease, but the numbers where they relate to cancer cases and or deaths do not warrant 2,000+ pages of “New Laws” being passed by congress with regards to how the care will be paid for. Health Care is a great idea, and it is do-able, but not under the current guise it is being fostered under. I believe this whole debate needs to be scrapped, shelved, and recalled at a later date (like starting next month from scratch) because really and truly what it boils on down to is there are those that want health care that can’t afford it and don’t know how to pay for it, there are those that want health care that can afford it and want someone else to pay for it, and there are those that are not interested in paying for either one of those two’s wants or needs if it impacts them substantially. Balance Kj, balance and implementation. Don’t just focus on the grapes and bananas in the tutti fruitti headdress being worn by those that are dancing around in the aisles of Congress. Consider how it is going to be fed… I could sit down and come up with a pretty rational approach to 90% of the problem in one month. It is all fairly simple you know….
Written by   on 12/3/2009
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KJ, if this bill passes it wil not cover everybody. I think the number is 10+ million will remain uninsured, so I guess the females still won't be able to get a mammogram?
Written by CN on 12/3/2009
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Unfortunately, I have more to do in life than spew baseless studies over the Internet and radio waves. I'm sure any studies I can find are funded by either right-wing groups or left-wing groups. Can't trust anything -- every study is paid for by someone. Just because the report exists doesn't make it valid. The composition and history of those in charge of FamiliesUSA shows the definite slant. I'm sure you'd shoot back with the same response as did if I quoted a study published by the Heritage Foundation or the Family Research Council.
Written by Funny on 12/3/2009
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Funny: If you have information debunking the claims made by Families USA about the cost of premiums since 2000 then you are more than welcome to present it.
Written by Daniel Z on 12/2/2009
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You seem to like to use information from FamiliesUSA. This organization is as partisan as they come. In 1997, President Clinton appointed their leader, Ron Pollack, to be the sole consumer representative on the Presidential Advisory Commission on Consumer Protection and Quality in the Health Care Industry. Yes, there is even a member of SEIU on the organization's board -- Mary Kay Henry, the International Executive Vice President of SEIU. All credibility gone.
Written by Funny on 12/2/2009
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CN says, "Come on girls, you don't need to get a mammogram until you're 50 or so!"..... Again- a subject you know nothing about. The overwhelming majority of Breast Cancers appear in women over 50 ... that's a fact. However- if you have a family history- you should be tested earlier and regularly. I agree with the Task Force which only states that the screening is more effective in ages over 50. The sad truth is that only insured Americans can get mammograms at any age.
Written by KjunLady on 12/2/2009
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Blue Cross of Louisiana insures a number of individuals in Louisiana. Blue cross of Kentucky insures a number of individuals in Kentucky. If Blue Cross could cross state lines and insure people across the nation the numbers are greatly increased and the premiums would in fact e lower. As it is now the companies are separate entities that are insuring a limited group. The "Public Option" crosses state lines...doesn't seem fair does it? As a small business owner I can not join up with similar companies across the country in order to get a larger pool and cheaper premiums, but that's what the public option will be doing. According to your statistics, insurance premiums have risen approximately 9% a year, I wonder how much Congress' pay checks have increased per year during this time frame? Since each state is different and the citizens of each state have varying lifestyles or live next to chemical plants or eat more fried foods, etc. you are not comparing apples to apples and to use this to discount tort reform is ridiculous. How do you know it won't lower premiums? We'll never know because Congress and specifically democrats are all lawyers. Finally, call them deatrh panels call them appointed board members...they will have a say in our healthcare. Come on girls, you don't need to get a mammogram until you're 50 or so!
Written by CN on 12/2/2009
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Jo-Jo is going out of town and needs to board his horse for a couple of months. So he asks a local farmer about it and the farmer says, "Sure, but I charge rupess 500 per week, and I keep the manure." - Jo-Jo told him that he can`t afford this much, so the farmer refers him to another farmer, down the road.....When approached with the request, the farmer said said, "Yup, I can do it for 400 rupees a week, and I keep the manure." - This is still too much for our Jo-Jo, and the farmer suggests that he try Banta the farmer down the road...... Desperate at this point Jo-Jo asks Banta about boarding his horse and his lack of money he is surprised to hear, "Sure. I`ll be glad to do it for rupees 50 per month." With delight, Jo-Jo exclaimed, "WOW! I suppose for that price you`ll want to keep the manure." - Banta looked at Jo-Jo with kind of a squint, and says, "For Rupees 50 a month, there ain`t gonna be none!".......... So folks, I guess affordable government run healthcare will probably be out of the question too.
Written by   on 12/2/2009
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Dan Zimmerman, glad you brought the 10th amendment up. It is through that fair and equitable approaches to health care insurance policy costs can be approached. But there is going to have to be a federal minimum standard applied if states are going to toy with a novel concept. Because in many instances it is the Federal Gov. that stands between hapless individuals and the instruments of state for which they can be or are subjected to. Not going to bother offering up working solutions that are fair and equitable right now because I see no evidence that anything noteworthy or of any realistic integrity actually participates on this buzzy-buzz-buzz bored anyways so I don’t feel like wasting my energies or thoughts on this mundane problem at this time. Hurry everyone! Scramble for the fake plastic beads and doubloons!!! (Vikings versus Colts, Superbowl XLIV, or any other suitable team, one of my fondest thoughts)….
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I love the current TV ad featuring a female neurosurgeon (who sounds drunk), where she says, "I don't represent any special interest groups."..... Oh yeah? Who's paying for your commercial? (I guess she's in the over $260,000 tax bracket)
Written by KjunLady on 12/2/2009
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