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Louisiana Gov. Jindal Is Freddie Kruger On Louisiana Higher Ed Budget


Written by: Dr. Albert Samuels


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Dr. Albert L. Samuels


 When Bobby Jindal ran for Governor, he talked about how important higher education is in securing Louisiana’s future. He cited his experience as former president of the University of Louisiana System as one of his key qualifications for the office of governor. Many in the higher education community were encouraged by Candidate Jindal’s background, thinking that someone who was “one of them” would occupy the Governor’s Mansion.
 But that was then - before the national recession and the meteoric descent in oil prices  turned surpluses into deficits.  The same governor, the Rhodes Scholar that some had hoped would be a friend to higher education, proposed a Friday the 13th Freddy Kruger type of budget for higher education - to the tune of $219 million in cuts, a reduction of 15% in state funding. Thus far, the legislature has not come up with enough cash in order to substantially mitigate the proposed cuts. The latest proposal, offered by Sen. Lydia Jackson (D-Shreveport) would delay the implementation of a portion of the Stelly tax rollback enacted last year (projected to raise $118 million) in order to soften the blow to the universities. The governor has threatened to veto this bill should it reach his desk; he calls it a tax increase by another name. However, the governor has yet to offer a serious proposal to offset the cuts facing higher education this year. Unless something changes soon, Louisiana’s colleges and universities will experience a catastrophic hatchet job that will have devastating, long-term consequences on the state. These impacts will cripple not just our colleges, but will have far-reaching implications for Louisiana’s economic development for decades to come.
 The governor justifies his proposals in part by decrying his lack of “flexibility” due to the failure of the Louisiana Constitution  to include higher education and health care among its constitutionally protected areas from budget cuts. He supports a constitutional amendment granting the administration more flexibility to deal with budget crises  (However, since the earliest an amendment can be voted on by the people is October, it’s not clear how this amendment helps us with the problem we have right now.)  However, he found $50 million to save a chicken plant in Farmerville from going out of business and $85 million to keep the Saints in New Orleans. To be sure, I have nothing against the chicken plant and I love the Saints. The point of these examples is that the problem is not simply one of revenue - the problem is one of priorities. And when it comes to higher education, that has historically been a problem in Louisiana.
 The truth is that Louisiana has never given higher education - or education, for that matter - its proper priority. Education, in the heady days of the oil-financed populism that is the legacy of Louisiana politics from Huey Long to Edwin Edwards, was always the state’s highest priority - after everything else of course. By comparison, Texas, another oil state, invested the proceeds of its oil revenues in higher education (which explains, for example, why the University of Texas at Austin is significantly more well endowed than LSU).However, in a state with such an abundance of natural resources, it did not matter (or so it seemed) that its higher education system was under financed or poorly organized. Not when people with an eighth grade education could get middle-class level jobs in the oil patch making more money than people with college degrees.
 This way of life came crashing down to earth in the 1980’s during the Oil Bust. As a result, higher education endured thirteen consecutive years of budget cuts starting in the early 1980’s; indeed, in some years, colleges experienced mid-year cuts, which are even more debilitating. Many bright professors and researchers left the state, finding greener pastures elsewhere. The state began to reap the consequences of its failure to invest in education at all levels. Industries for decades have more often cited inadequacies in Louisiana’s education system than its supposed “unfriendly business climate” or its reputation for political corruption as the principal reason they choose not to invest in our state.  This point is significant because it explodes the key fallacy in Jindal’s political and economic philosophy thus far - the notion that Louisiana’s history of poor ethics and its “unfriendly business taxes” constituted the chief stumbling block to the state’s economic growth. It has taken the state’s colleges and universities 20 years to recover from the budget crisis of the 1980’s - only to be walloped again by the current proposals by the Jindal administration.
 It is through the prism of the budget crises of the 1980’s that the proposed cuts by Jindal must be viewed because it disrobes one of the arguments used by those who support the cuts - the idea that  higher education could simply return to its 2006 funding levels (before the Katrina funding boom) and simply “cut the fat” that colleges put on during the boom years.  This argument ignores the fact that Louisiana went 25 years without fully funding its higher education formula. The recent infusion of dollars into higher education represent the first time in decades that Louisiana funded its colleges and universities at the Southern average. While that was a noteworthy accomplishment, it should not be the end-all we strive for. If, for example, Les Miles were simply an “average” coach with an average win total, it wouldn’t be long before the LSU faithful would be calling for his head. A football program that has grown accustomed to competing for a national championship would not long tolerate a coach who was simply “average.” Similarly, Louisiana should not settle for an “average” or a “below average” higher education system. 
 Just recently, LSU was mentioned among U.S. News and World Report’s top U.S. universities--it was ranked 130th , making it the first public university in Louisiana ever to make the U.S. News and World Report rankings. This is partly attributable to the university’s “Flagship agenda,” its “Forever LSU” Campaign, higher academic standards, and other factors that are starting to pay off. Louisiana needs a first-rate research university if it is to be a major player in the global economy. The connection between economic development and research universities is well known in economic development circles. The draconian cuts proposed by the administration threatened to undo the progress that LSU has made in recent years. They will send a powerful signal nationally that Louisiana is not a good place to invest. And to the degree that LSU catches a cold, many of the state’s other universities will have pneumonia. The cuts will have devastating impacts at many of the smaller universities. They will require massive layoffs, cause the cancellation of numerous academic programs (and imperil the accreditation of other programs that are not outright eliminated), and threaten the long-term viability of some universities.
 Supporters of these cuts argue that Louisiana has more four-year colleges than it can afford and this crisis creates an opportunity for a long-overdue pairing down of universities. But too many colleges by whose definition? There is no magic ratio for what the “optimal” number of universities should be - the city of Boston has 18 four-year colleges, more than the entire state of Louisiana! Furthermore, only 27% of the state’s population is college educated (the national average for a state is 39%), making Louisiana dead last in the proportion of its population that is college-educated. Given our deficit of college educated citizens, it is not clear how closing colleges and universities makes a whole lot of sense.
 Some say Louisiana should invest more in its community and technical colleges and reduce the number of four-year schools. But that is a false choice. The argument often used is that Louisiana’s shortage of skilled laborers is what is preventing companies from locating here; consequently, we need to build up our community colleges to create the workforce necessary for those kinds of jobs. Then, we will be able to nab the big firms, like the German steel plant that recently went to Alabama or the Nissan facility that located in Mississippi. (Actually, Louisiana lacks no shortage of good training programs - we already train welders and carpenters and brick masons,  who very often move to other states where they make more money). The same thinking is behind this so-called “alternative diploma” (ostensibly to solve the state’s high school dropout problem) to provide opportunity for those kids not likely to earn a four-year degree.  This rationale overlooks the fact that if Louisiana decapitates its colleges and universities, that will hurt all workers, not just those in the so-called “knowledge industries.“ Furthermore, it fails to consider that even the kids taking “shop” or “auto repair,” or “business math” in a digital, automated economy, need to understand computers and mathematics to deal with the high-tech equipment currently utilized in these so-called “mechanical” fields. 
 Not only is it short-sighted to cut higher education as deeply as is being proposed, but the manner in which the administration proposes to do so is grossly unfair. Jindal wants to use a so-called “performance-based” formula as the basis for determining the state allocation for its public universities. Institutions would be funded on the basis of their graduation rates and the amount of federal research dollars they generate, as opposed to their levels of enrollment.  On the surface, it appears to be a fair measuring stick. But the devil is in the details. In actuality, the formula does not measure performance at all. If for example, it treats institutions like Southern University, whose entering freshman average 18 on the ACT on par with LSU, where students frequently score 24 or above on the same measure. Colleges who primarily admit the best-prepared students will always have an advantage over smaller schools with more lenient admissions standards that enroll a higher proportion of the less-prepared students. It is like comparing apples and oranges.  Students who come to college with weaker acad For those institutions like Southern University, whose mission has been to offer educational opportunity not just to the elite or the best prepared, the formula penalizes Southern and institutions like it simply for fulfilling their own missions. Jindal’s so-called “performance based” formula is a thinly-veiled mechanism that appears purposely designed to mortally wound “less favored” higher education institutions within the state.
 The legislature and the administration must come up with a solution to this current crisis that minimizes the impacts to higher education. Literally, the future of our state is at stake. Jindal cannot simply be “Dr. No” and stick to his unrealistic, anti-tax, anti-solution stance to the problem. His posture is particularly infuriating considering that his policies are partly to blame for this crisis. It was the Stelly tax rollbacks that he brags about (and which he seems unwilling to acknowledge were a mistake) which have aggravated the budget crisis. While he opposes using “one-time money” to solve the current problem, that did not stop him last year from spending $500 million in one-time money on road projects. Lawmakers should delay or roll back the tax cuts from last year, dip into the Rainy Day Fund, apply the tax incentives that  Jim Bernhardt wants to give back to the atate, or some combination of the above in order to avoid catastrophic cuts to higher education. If state leaders do not change course (and soon), they will not only be cutting colleges; they will be cutting our own throats.

 





 












 

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Didn't know upchucky cheese served red beans and rice..... Nayuck, nuck, nuck, nuck..... No, I have gotten stuck with the 'take the kids to Chukies for da b-day celebration' Not no laughing matter... Sort of reminds me of the combat zone in Boston on a friday night.......
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"And you claim to be some kind of gourmet lover or something, what are you doing in a snot infested dive like that? ".... Haa... we call those "snot-balls" too:)... didn't eat a thing at Chuck E.Cheese's (they used to provide killer chocolate cake-- but, now - ya have to bring your own cake!- geesh it's a recession alright).... "gourmet lover?"..... Actually- I'm far from "gourmet-anything"-- but, I am an expert on good Nawlins food.... all-time favorite dish is Red Beans n Rice, (how's dat fuh cultchuh?... although, now, only with brown rice:)...... If I had a smorgasboard of the finest prepared delicasies of the season -- I'd go for the fresh grilled "catch of the day."
Written by KjunLady on 6/6/2009
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Not since the day the music died my friend, not since the day the music died.... So now my friend consider the final cut, and not the turning away....... Not Now John (Roger Waters) - - - - - *uc* all that we've got to get on with these - - - - Gotta compete with the wily Japanese. - - - - - There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees. - - - - So *uc* all that we've go to get on with these....Can't stop - - Lose job - - Mind gone - - Silicon - - What bomb - - Get away - -Pay day - - Make hay - - Break down - - Need fix - - Big six - - Clickity click - - Hold on - - Oh no Brrrrrrrrrring bingo! - - Make 'em laugh..... Make 'em cry...... Make 'em dance in the aisles..... Make 'em pay...... Make 'em stay..... Make'em feel ok. - - - Not nah John We've got to get on with the film show........ Hollywood waits at the end of the rainbow....... Who cares what it's about as long as the kids go?. . .... Not now John got to get on with the show.- - - - -- Hang on John we've got to get on with this........ I don't know what it is/but it fits on here like..... Come at the end of the shift we'll go and get pissed. - - - - But now now John I've got to get on with this.- - - - Hold on John I think there's something good on. - - - I used to read books but..... It could be the news/Or some other abuse - - - Or it could be reusable shows. ..... *uc* all that we've got to get on with these - - - - Got to compete with the wily Japanese. - - - - No need to worry about the Vietnamese. - - - - Got to bring the Russian Bear to his knees........ Well, maybe not the Russian Bear - - Maybe the Swedes.. . . . We showed Argentina Now let's go and show these..... Make us feel tough and wouldn't Maggie be pleased? - - - Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah! "s'cusi dove il bar - - (What?) - - - se para collo pou eine toe bar - - - s'il vous plait ou est le bar (...say it in English!...) - - - oi, where's the *uc*ing bar John? (Oh, now you're talking!)" Oh! Rule Britannia! Britannia rules the day Down! - - - -Go, Maggie! - - - - Hammer, Hammer, Hammer, Hammer, now! - - - - On the turning away - - - - -On the turning away,,,From the pale and downtrodden - - And the words they say which we wont understand - - - - Dont accept that whats happening - - - Is just a case of others suffering - - - Or youll find that youre joining in the turning away........... Its a sin that somehow,,,,,,Light is changing to shadow - - And casting its shroud over all we have known,,,,,,,, Unaware how the ranks have grown,,,,,Driven on by a heart of stone - - - We could find that were all alone in the dream of the proud......... On the wings of the night - - - - As the daytime is stirring - - - Where the speechless unite in a silent accord - - - Using words you will find are strange - - - And mesmerized as they light the flame - - - - Feel the new wind of change on the wings of the night.......... No more turning away - - - From the weak and the weary - - - No more turning away from the coldness inside . . ..... Just a world that we all must share - - -- Its not enough just to stand and stare - - - - Is it only a dream that therell be no more turning away?
Written by Run run run run run, run, run, run, run, run, run, on 6/5/2009
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To those who are young at heart, the trinity is "sex, drugs and rock & roll"
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Oh wait, bacon/food, well heck yes, think I'll have some, onions/sex, uhhhh, here breath smells like onions no I don't want a smooch, and the garlic thing, well, already got the analogy of that........... Oh, the blak mamma tapping u on the shoulder racist? No, it is simply: "get your kid away from my kids stuff, because I hate strangers, I am a lowlife, I don't like you, I don't like your kid, and I don't want you at my party unless you are anteing up some money................" So in other words it falls down into the food/sex/security (territory) analogy... Now if you had of dropped a c-note on the table she would have been kissing your ass and telling you how pretty your baby, your shoes and your hairdoo was (even though she may or may not have been lying through her teeth)....... Hell, she might of even offered you a slice of Chuckee cheese upchuck pizza........ (And you claim to be some kind of gourmet lover or something, what are you doing in a snot infested dive like that? Looking for swine flue or something???
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Yes, that's another way of looking at it, Bacon/sex (is that what I really want to pork?) Onions/Food, well onions always make the dish taste better, Garlic/Security, uhhhhhhhh well, you know when it comes to keeping vampires away it is always a good thing to have a wreath of garlic at the door....... Yes, in a round about way you have your trinity in order.............................
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<~~~~~thought the trinity was bacon, onions, and garlic.
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Lemme give you another example, WB:).... the scene was Chuck E.Cheese's - childrens' birthday party- The place was packed- -- Adults standing around- as seats were reserved for the kids-- Each long table had a bouquet of balloons, and various other treats......I picked up my crawling baby-niece, 12 mos old, as she marvelled at the balloons, at the empty table next to us)... Her li'l chubby hand would bat at the balloons while she chuckled from the belly----- Suddenly, a rather large black woman tapped me on my shoulder and said, "Please leave my little girl's balloons alone."......... WHAAAA?!.... it was a BABY---- not a WHITE baby-- just a BABY---- I looked down the aisle to her somber gathering.... and whoa-- I had to get the heck outta there-- cuz, my temp would not cool-- and you did NOT want to get into a fight with this group..... Am I prejudiced?...............at that moment- You bet.............Was this racial?..........I think so... Latuh~
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Don't feel bad Kl, heck, a person you wanted to be friend of referred to you as 'you people'..... So really and truely, what is racism? It doesn't exist.... Only the time long tradition of seeking out food, sex, and security and wanting no conflict or confrontations during the quest..... Does calling someone '4 eyes' mean a person is racist? Or how about 'retarded'? Or how about "jackass"? No, actually it falls back to the security protion of the trinity.... You are tired of someone dogging your arse, busting your chops for no logical reason and it finally comes on down to short of blacking an eye or jacking a jaw, words come into play... And it goes on and on and on..... There is no such thing as agreeing to disagree.... And there is no such thing as disagreeing to be in agreement... It's all words, and when the shovel is in hand and a shi^ hole has to be dug either put up, shutup, or get out is the saying in the trenches......
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I am not a fan of FDR's wife but do like the quote of hers concerning "ideas." My point is that - in the search for truth, the best way to govern, etc., etc. we should discuss issues, not make personal attacks AND also we should not be so attached to any one position, personality or political party to limit our mind's ability to weigh the pros and cons of an issue. p.s. the Kilmer poster was gone before my "hippie-wannabe" days.
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"And what may I ask are the previous comments being credited to me that indicate I am a racist if you don't mind my asking...."... Truce, WB.... I too have been guilty of racial remarks.... and I regret it... hopefully I'm wiser than my "sheltered up-bringing"..... Recently I received email from the first and only Black student in our all-girl Catholic School.... I was giddy and anxious to recall teenage memories.... Instead she blasted me, saying, "Who are you? 'you people' called me the N-word regularly, you egged my car.".. she said she cried everyday for 4 years......... Even though "I" personally didn't do any of those horrible things-- I felt terribly guilty for not understanding her feelings back then, for the scarring she endures.... how bubble-headed and insensitive of me.... just thought she was "quiet"..... So, yes, WB... we're all brought up in a certain amount of prejudice- but, I'm trying to correct my wrong ways.... Peace..... (I know, Eleanor is a beauty)... back to my meatloaf... wait, kpf.....ROFL!....... Bill Kilmer, and black lights?... you rad!
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uh , sorry BayouBuzz I guess one long "underscore" is not "a good thing." ___ DISCLAIMER!!! "a good thing" is attributable to Martha Stewart. I do not want anyone thinking that I am claiming..... bla, bla, bla, etc., etc., etc.
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"clears up"
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S'all right. _______________- DISCLAIMER!!!! _- The phrase "S'all Right" was cut and pasted from a site on the ventroloquist Señor Wences and his tallking "head in a box." I do not want anyone to think that I - your friend and fellow American, Kerry Fox - am attempting to claim credit for this statement. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________- I hope that cleans up any confusion anyone may be having on this matter.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Kp, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,,, wuzzup?
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Tree tings . wun - I posted the quote from Roosevelt. two - the only people who's posters I had on my walls were Bill Kilmer (signed no less) when I was 12, Jimi Hendrix when I was 16 (I painted my entire room flat black - molding, ceiling, closet - the works - while my parents slept so the Hendrix and other black light posters would be the only thing reflecting the blacklight.... my Mother was not pleased - my Dad was speechless). tree - Economics is a measure of how much freedom vs. how much control government has over us. Boring only to those who are unaware of government encroachment on freedom or welcome such government control ("sheeple" in other words).
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And what may I ask are the previous comments being credited to me that indicate I am a racist if you don't mind my asking....
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Oh, look up Eleanor on the web, one hell of a sexy ride!!! Dally around with the Shelby Cobra's also, I like power........
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Oh, you lead a sheltered life Kl, Point blank, deepest most inner fears and feelings displayed by common people when accused of racism is quite simply put; ‘No one from the outside’.... Glad you picked up on the joke of my having a friend who is black, even though you didn't pick up on it, pity that, you really need to broaden your horizens a bit.... I saw two examples of racism after I walked away from the keyboards and climbed into the Escalade for a quick cruise... Watched a person swerve to run over a turtle on the road.... They are known variously as mobilians, or red eared sliders, the turtle, not the driver, ehhhh, whutever, anyways, that was an example of the Human Race against the Lesser Animal race... or, RACISM... What did that little turtle do to that idiot anyways? I pulled over, picked the turtle up, his shell was fractured rather severely but still intact, the breastplate or underbelly hadn't been shattered so perhaps it will survive, no blood, so probably minimal impact to the internal organs..... Those turtles are tough little critters, anyways put him off (or her, I didn't think to ask it what its sex or name was) onto a grassy area near by.... Then as I was rounding the corner I saw a grey mockingbird dive bombing a cat... Those mockingbirds have some really big cajones I think!!!! The cat was rather perturbed as the mockingbird kept swooping down and smacking the cat up side its ears with its wings.... Sort of hillarious.... Again, RACISM!!!! Avian against feline!!!! Oh geeee, I see on yahoo that the Chinese are buying HUMMER from us or U.S. which is now GM.... Well, I suppose a Hummer will get places a rickshaw won't.... Oh dear, was that a RACIST conotation? Anyways, I'm going to go down the road and eat some pizza with a dago I know.... Oh dear!!!!! I have Italian friends too????? Strange thing is, he isn't white, so should I be saying that every white man should have an Italian friend also???? I think folks are too sensitive, hyper sensitive, it all boils down to 'Not from here' like; get the frick out of here you are competing for my food, sex, and safety, like RACISM really boils down to territory or turf, and when one sees one of a different color it is easier to segregate, differentiate, prioritize, protect against ones fear of having to share or compete for or against food, sex, security... Simple as that... You shook LBJ's hand? Well aren't you just special.... Tell me, did it do anything for you????
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Oh- YOU are MADAME?.. wtf, WB.... you fooled me! .....(Poor, innocent KPF))........Go back to your bong, WB.
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Okay-- you had me paying serious attention, WB, - 'til I got to this, "There is no such thing as racism……. It boils on down to primordial drives that relate to food, sex, and safety".... (and, you're outta your happy mind, WB)....... On the other hand, Mr.Smith, you do get a MEDAL for having a black friend... Very good...nobody should ever say you're racist, right? Your previous comments are ultra-racist...... No shady area........... (still can't figure out what you're trying to say about Eleanor Roosevelt..... she was not in MY time, Sweetie.... but, I DID shake hands with President L.B.Johnson, when I was a freshman in high school.)
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Kl, you warm the very cochials of my heart with pitter patter of your prattling words…… Uhhh, I would truly hope that I am not getting any sympathy on this page. I have no use nor any need for it….. Empathy, now that is a different subject…. And know, you do not know how I think about Piyush, because the facts are, I really don’t spend any time thinking about him at all… But, being our wonderful little bobble headed governor and all the media attention he chases after I do from time to time make comment on what a shallow person he ultimately is….. But I guess folks are already starting to fully understand that for their selves so I do refrain from commenting on his plethora of inadequacies as much as I used to….. I mean hell, what’s the sense in constantly beating a retard with a wet noodle??? Anyways, I hope you are not insinuating that I am some kind of racist, or chauvinist, or a callous person or something like that, because it would simply mean that you obviously do not know me, nor could even begin to come to grips with an effort of trying to understand me….. I like that word racism, funny but a friend and I were just discussing it allowing each to put their perspective on the subject…. This guy I suspect as a rather high I.Q. so we let the dialog proceed, no assumptions, no presumptions… Just analytical evaluation as we delved upon psyches’ we have encountered in our many and various travels about…… His final conclusion as he presented it was much aligned with the understanding of the subject I had arrived upon…. There is no such thing as racism……. It boils on down to primordial drives that relate to food, sex, and safety…… The three basic instincts man acts upon (or women, remember, I am not a chauvinist) In short, it is a dog eat dog world and the alliances to racism really mean ‘No one from the outside’….. Because a man that will do a man wrong based on the color of his skin will do his own brother or sister wrong just as easily……. And there you go Kl, right, wrong, or indifference…. The other legs that support the table with plates of food, sex, and safety on it….. Oh incidentally, the person I allude to which I was speaking with is black (don’t you just know every white man has a black ‘friend’ nayuck-nuck-nuck-ncuk) and perhaps the best part of it is I was introduced to him by my other friend ‘Mac Man’……. But I am tired of talking about black and white tangents, because that’s all they are…. Tangents, abstracts, figments of overworked and either overzealous or over jealous minds……. Have a good day girl, time to go climb into the Escalade and tool on down the road, got rained out but got the sewage problem under control…. I have been busy putting some of my unlicensed, uneducated engineering experience to use helping someone else out with a major structural problem…. Sort of boring, but I didn’t want to see another one of my friends get hit with a $10,000 bill so her problem could get figured out and fixed…… But I do enjoy spreading the C-notes around…. So, I suppose it is a give and take world….. Just be careful of how much you give and what you allow others to take….. Balance, that’s the Dr’s. Rx, balance Kl, balance…… Oh, by the way The source has been cited Madame on 6/2/2009………………….. Have you ever met Eleanor Roosevelt? So what the hell are you doing discussing her for?……… You HYPOCRITE… Now if you want to talk about an Eleanor or a Shelby I might find that interesting…………….. Vroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmm
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"Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people".... and boring people discuss economics, KPF. (you like to quote Eleanor Roosevelt---Most guys your age had Farrah Fawcett posters in their room-- did you have a life-size of Eleanor?)
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“Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people” - Eleanor Roosevelt
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Tee Dub, no one expected you to find it funny. You are the reason it IS funny. But if Al Franken had said it about Rush Limbaugh, you'd be laughing your tightly puckered a$$ off and you know it.
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"I have two words for that particular "witty" post: 'Nice talk.' ".... Dr.T- you're slipping-- donchyu know that's WB himself writing that "witty" comment-- and complimenting his own words?
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The bar for witty on this site is apparently set really low. I have two words for that particular "witty" post: "Nice talk." TW
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LOL... uh, Yeeeeeah....I know how you think, WB.....I've read your comments on this blog for the past 14 months ... (quite an indelible pattern.)... there's a lot more that I don't know --- but, it's safe to say-- I know how "you think" about Piyush, government, women, gays, and blacks- and on people who Pi** on your car..... oh yes, I know-- ( still like you anyway:)... and, I cannot BELIEVE you're actually getting sympathy on this blog....LOL.. how different is thaaat, Mr.Smith?
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I don't care who you are, that "intellectual auto-fellatio" line that the original no name put on Tee Dub is FUNNY. Witty and dead on the mark, just like all good comedy.
Written by No Name Number Ninety-Nine on 6/1/2009
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that the whole point is that the governor is not interested in doing real work (since everyone wants to see people doing real work and being productive and not being lazy or cheating others out of their own hard-earned income) on honest solutions to the state's issues. He wants to be able to talk up that he got ethics reform passed but his version of ethics reform is really a joke. He wants to claim credit for reducing taxes (even though initially he had reservations about the idea and the fact of state revenues drying up now has made that seem at the least a very questionable idea) and then probably also for cutting the budget. Not to mention creationism in science classes. It's not so much that cutting the budget and reducing taxes are bad things to do in and of themselves but it's the way it's being done. He cut taxes right when everyone knew that there would be fiscal problems soon down the road and as the Gambit pointed everyone also was well aware of the long list of still-unmet needs. That's not fiscal reform; it's just humbuggery. They say that they absolutely have to cut the budget now. OK, true enough. But the way it's being done is just humbuggery. No one is doing the heavy lifting of devising a plan to ensure that what's truly vital will be left alone. Want to reduce the waste in higher education, since we're so sure that there is so much waste? OK, fine, how about a strategic plan that looks at and takes into account who's being served by each institution and which is most vital to the state's interests and assigns priorities and let us go from there? How about abiding by his own formula (which would show that almost every institution would actually be well under-funded in this budget)?
Written by The Real Story is on 6/1/2009
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It was not laziness rather I was at work and had to run off to a meeting and so cut the article (I had already provided a link to this same article twice before - when links were allowed). I really don't care if that is believed or not as I am neither running for office nor attempting to win a "source citing" contest. I thought then - and still do - think the article presented a case for the CRA being a major cause of the mortgage crises. Labeling it as racist or claiming I did not cite my source is not "quite" the same thing as disputing the claims in the article. Of course, if one cannot dispute the assertions contained in the article .. then attacking the source is all one has left.
Written by kpf, "lazy" .... me? on 6/1/2009
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Uhhhhhhh Kl, are you prejudiced, or racist, or merely confused? Whut does ya mean ya knows how WB thinks.... Does you thinks that wuz me, or duz you think this is me, or is there possibly another W@B?????????????????????????? Uh, like maybe two or three????? Don't be another duuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhbbbb in the bucket. Think fer yerself............... It is pretty clear... Just thought you might like to be one of the informed ones here........................ Ta-ta........ Oh, almost forgot, the MB does 135.................. Now that is fairly quick, or should I say Farvegnügen???????????????
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"than to demonstrate the intellectually laziness"... you mean like KPF.... cutting and pasting Google-- because he's too lazy?
Written by KjunLady on 6/1/2009
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Neither labeling statements "racist" or claiming they come from someone unacceptable (Rush Limbaugh or any other human either alive or deceased) has jack $#it to do with the merits of a statement's truth or not. Nothing personal, but it does not forward “discussion” other than to demonstrate the intellectually laziness of the one who disregards statements by attacking the source instead of making a case for or against the merits of a stated opinion.
Written by kpf on 6/1/2009
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kpf says, "While WB may in fact be racist (I think he is) "....LOL.... ya see, Mr.Proof, we here at BayouBuzz KNOW how "Written-By" thinks---- he never holds back... and, of course, his comments are racist. (and yes, he's still sharp and witty and, by the last post--- turning over a new leaf?) .... You said you support Rush Limbaugh?....(Man oh Man)... Don't tell anybody else that (unless you're in a NASCAR crowd)-- that's laughable.
Written by KjunLady on 6/1/2009
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I would have to disagree that many problems in Louisiana are related to racial issues, but would rather insert that they are merely ego concentric, or eccentric, whatever the word may be...... And generally when some type of racism is alluded to, in reality it is merely a crutch or a battle axe, depending upon the circumstances, wielded by the victim or the oppressor, again, depending upon the circumstances....... Wut's next, discrimination of people who like spaghetti?, Artichokes? Watermelons? Levi's?..... How about people that like to work to earn a better living? How about people that want to be free and enabled to spend their money on things they want to spend t it on? Where I will agree with proofreader is that yes, "Racism" is and has been a very cultivated and nurtured word utilized by wordmongers in order to cause casualty, division, or even to conquer… In other words, they are twisted control freaks…….. We are not a unified nation of sorts because we lack the commonality to identify actual problems for what they are, assess their true costs, and finally, efficiently overcome them…… In uniform fashion…. It has gotten to the point that our individuality has turned into a case of selfishness, and we are becoming pariahs…… Dissention, strife, those are the venues on our menus…….. Many of our shortcomings that we perceive are merely momentary lapses in reasoning…… We need to dig deeper for the true meanings……… It is a different world out there, we need to adapt and move forward……
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Taking your two "personalities" out of this and simply looking at judging a statement in general, validity (you know, the "truth thing") is more important than any label one can hang on a statement ("racist"). For example; "Black men are proportionately better basketball players than white men are." Is that a "racist" statement? Does it matter? Rather one would think "is it a true statement?" would be ALL one needs to know about the statement to judge it. While WB may in fact be racist (I think he is) in fact his statements on the post including "They need effective elementary and secondary schools" and " ...electing school board members and elected officials who perpetuate failing schools" and "...the uneducated rabble is prime vote-buying grounds for the politicians who have made Louisiana a third world state" are - IMHO - spot on accurate.
Written by kpf on 6/1/2009
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Thanks for your thoughtful response! Have a nice day! TW
Written by Tee Dub on 6/1/2009
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I don't feel any obligation to answer a question from someone as biased and close-minded as you. Just like you ignore questions and points made by posters that you label as idiots, racists, nitwits, morons, etc. I thought this site might be a place to exchange some ideas, but after looking back through archives and seeing your prominence and consistent bullying and obnoxiousness, I see no point in reading comments here any more. But feel free to express your predictable pride in bullying and being obnoxious to the morons, idiots, racists, etc. And keep enjoying your wallowing in your self-righteousness, Tee Dub.
Written by Proofreader on 6/1/2009
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You really don't want to answer the question, do you? TW
Written by Tee Dub on 6/1/2009
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Unfortunately, many of the problems in Louisiana are directly related to racial issues. Whenever someone puts any particular blame on the black victims of the social ills, people like Tee Dub can't wait to call them a racist, thereby trying to discount any of their points and avoid any further analysis of their positions. But what is the term for someone who appears to be sincerely concerned about the plight of minorities, but immediately cries racism whenever anyone tries to indicate that the poor bear any blame whatsoever for the predicament, or that the poor continue to avoid actions that can start to ease their misery? If there is a word for that kind of thinking, then Tee Dub can scream racism, the other party can scream their ugly charge, and we can end the discussion then and there. Of course, the new word won't carry the universal negativism that liberals have worked so hard to nurture the minute they can find an excuse to cry "racism".
Written by Proofreader on 6/1/2009
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But back to the 'information-based-economy' spiel.... I think I covered that tangent back in 2006 when I upgraded my website.... You know, 1 person watching 3 people, and another watching 3 of the people that are watching 3 of the people, and another watching 3 of the people that are watching three of the people that are watching 3 of the people that are watching 3 of the people..... I really hate sharing common sense on this bored because some devious prick will try to capitalize on it and bring more misery, but back to the 'information - based - economy'..... Pretty much to support this economic theory, or management approach it means that every one and everything will be taxed, taxed, taxed, taxed.... So anyone that is a staunch advocate of this proceed is ultimately an individual that wishes to enslave you........ No, I am not going to share particulars on my insight, because someone will try to pass legislation to cause into fruition that which I want to warn against.... Yeah, I suppose knowledge is power, and sometimes it is perhaps best to keep my powers to myself for the sake of my fellow man........... My Gawd we have some imbecilic a-holes running things..........
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blah, blah, blah..... Racism is a figment of your overtaxed imagination.... Some folks like Rotweilers, some like dacshunds, some like cats, some like burritos, some like pizza...... Get over it T-blah........... It is like such a non-issue it is pathetic......................... And only stirred up by pathetic little creatures loath for attention............
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You did not answer my question, Proofreader, and it is a serious one. Is the post in question by no-name racist? If not, explain why not. I am not (at least not right now!) lowering the level of discussion here (unlike no-name - really thoughtful response there) - I'm asking for clarification. TW
Written by Tee Dub on 6/1/2009
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As someone pointed out this problem with education has been around for quite some time. We have school boards that want to run kids through college prep courses when a large number do not want or should go to college. I've seen high schools offer three tracts 1. Advanced or honors 2. Basic college prep 3. Basic high school with emphasis on shop/agriculture/etc. these schools produce better prepared graduates. But we teach to pass the Leap test we offer course in ACT prep we don't want to hurt anybody's self esteem. It's all about numbers and numbers mean more money from the feds and state. It's tragic that we just pass kids and don't teach them. It's tragic that we use kids as political pawns. Could higher education get by with less, probably so. Why do we have more than one board over our colleges?
Written by Cn on 6/1/2009
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My hat's off to Dr. Samuels; his articles always garner quite a bit of discussion. I keep hearing about the Stelly plan as though our problems did not exist prior to this tax being enacted. I do not harbor ill will against the poor (or women who become pregnant in their teens); I will speak out against those who obtain power by perpetuating the cycle of poverty. As a taxpayer, I would love to see everyone be self-sufficient (that way I government may allow me to keep more of what is exchanged for my slavery .. er ... work - that is money exchanged for my labor - due to their not being wards of the government). Perhaps I am being “excessively greedy” when - despite already giving near half of my wages in all forms of taxes without the Stelly tax taking a significant portion of what is left over after taxes, insurance and living expenses are removed from my gross wages - to be glad it may be repealed .. oh well, so be it. So I do not desire to hold down the black man or anyone else. However there are those who profit from an ever-growing underclass .. now just who would that be?
Written by kpf on 6/1/2009
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Ahh, t t t, It's obvious that your juvenile name-calling and intellectual auto-fellatio on bayoubuzz is not fulfilling your fundamental need for recognition as a deep thinker. Maybe you should attempt something more challenging, like maybe the home version of Jeopardy. A few good rounds of that game with the family might validate your obvious genius and release some of the demons that plague you.
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Kl, you cut me to the quick, if I desired to sleep in it, could you possibly think of a more comfortable sleeping situation?????? Anyways, I got a laugh because in a short/short that is exacatly what I am going to be doing up on the Blue Ridge, camping and enjoying myself........ I earned it, or will have earned it after I get the results in from my latest experiment, which will go into formal production sometime around next December, wutever......... Anyways, T (a capitol) another wutever, how about a fricken truce dude???????????????? Your fight is not with me, it is with yourself and the value systems you subscribe or prescribe to that is not my call...... You want your carefree, sweatfree living??? Do not forget the folks that sweat to make it happen... I could care less...... Got a friend across the way with a brand new Mercedes, fixing to take it cruising for the fun of it,,,, Fun dude, that is American...... You want to live top dig, and make everyone else sweatZ???????? Craxy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back off my ass, give me some respect, I give it back........ Or play the dual of rising prices you owe me, I don't owe you and we all lose in the end...... I am asking folks on this little chunk of cyberspace to stop and consider............ When the flame that is America is spit upon and totally abused everything suffers... Local, extended, world wide..... We are the last and only as well as the first bastions of freedom............. God I pray for us..... I am doing well, but it should be so much more than that little insignificant daliance........ I am very unimportant. But, perhaps I can make a dent...... Why f--- that little potential up???????? What is with the ugliness and the ignorance??????? Especially from folks that are supposed to be so smartz????????????????????????????????
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Yes, we should all calm down and listen to thoughtful liberal statesmen, like James Carville and Al Sharpton. And although I agree that Limbaugh, et al offer extreme views, I don't think your posts on this website can be considered on the level of "a taste of that medicine". That comment shows your own inflated sense of self-importance. If people like the no-name poster responded in your style, these forums would read "you're and idiot, no, you're an idiot, no you're a double idiot, oh yeah, you and your momma are both idiots." Not exactly worth reading.
Written by Proofreader on 5/31/2009
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Proofreader, did it ever occur to you that I am only motivated to respond to racists and idiots? You don't think that that the post in question by no-name was racist? Are you serious? Read it again - it was blatant! And I love how conservatives, who have been coarsening political discourse in this country since the days of the late Lee Atwater, who listen to/watch and or read the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, G. Gordon Liddy, Ann Coulter, etc., etc., but when one liberal gives you a taste of your own medicine - suddenly you're all offended - "Not all conservatives are idiots, TW!" Thanks for that newsflash, Ace. TW
Written by Tee Dub on 5/31/2009
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Everyone deserves a chance. But people don't deserve chances entirely on their own terms or artificially declared equality or success. Lower standards just pile on the disadvantages that they already have. It's not wrong to use some of this country's wealth work on solutions for those problems. But it is wrong and a terrible wasted opportunity to simply redistribute that wealth without using it to address the underpinnings of the problem. Average Americans with financial security know how they got it - education, working, saving, planning, sacrificing. Those actions can work to varying degrees for practically everyone. But they must not only make the right choices individually, they must make the right choices as a group if the group is particularly disadvantaged. Wrong choices of the group can make the individual choices useless.
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I think that if the no-name poster thought that poll taxes or literacy tests were the answer, he would not have said that there was no way to end the failure cycle that Louisiana finds itself in. It's disgusting how Tee Dub always calls people morons and racists whenever they point out facts that he can't deal with. It's clear that there are educated liberals like Tee Dub who make informed decisions at the polls. Many educated and thinking conservatives also vote based on the facts available and their own values. But it's sad but true that there are many uneducated voters who are tricked and fooled into voting for bad people at each election.
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that the conservative "Final Solution" is apparently just to roundly condemn and abandon everyone altogether who lives in the inner city. They will all apparently never have a chance and don't deserve to get a chance, it sounds like. Just give me my tax cut, build a wall around the city while I stay in the suburb and that's that. That kind of thought just re-inforces what's been said. Liberalism is about trying just to let people get a basic chance and conservative-ism is about trying to hit back harder with stronger enforcement of "He Who Has the Gold Gets to Make the Rules" and shut the door in peoples' faces.
Written by The Real Story is on 5/31/2009
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Another voice in your head, teabagger, don't know where you got the forestry degree idea. And the author of this article brought up disparities at SU, so that topic was already on the table. He ignored an earlier question about whether SU could make up the discrepancy of educational attainment between its freshmen and those of larger universities. And the inner city schools and downtrodden of this state seem to have student bodies, faculty, administrators and school boards primarily made up of one race. They are the ones with the greatest need for education, and also the ones in charge of public education at the elementary and secondary school level. So if a particular group of people are failing miserably at educating their own children, how is it racist to point out that fact. -- As far as a literacy test, or only people like me voting, how is it that you can cry about how unprepared some citizens are to work, earn a living, raise a family, abide by the law, but still consider their analysis and choice of political candidates to be wise and prudent?
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No-name nitwit, your oh-so-thinly veiled racism is repugnant (SUNO and SU are the only schools that produce substandard teachers, eh?). And given that you spoke ill of LBJ earlier, and since you claim that the "problem is that uneducated citizens have one vote just like educated ones" it stands to reason that you'd be much happier if only people who look like you and "think" like you voted, or that maybe there were still a poll tax or a literacy test - like in the good ole days - don't you, Boss Hogg? What's really sad about you is that you think you're smart, but you're really just a pathetic, bitter, racist moron with a forestry degree who can't think his way out of paper sack. TW
Written by Tee Dub on 5/31/2009
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The poor downtrodden inner city poor you cry for don't need a college education or a flagship research program. They need effective elementary and secondary schools. But their concerns about education at those levels deal with lowering achievement standards, thwarting discipline, and electing school board members and elected officials who perpetuate failing schools. These people couldn't benefit from increased college funding, because they'll never complete an effective high school program. And they embrace teachers from SU and SUNO who have sham credentials and are products of race-based lower-standards programs themselves. But you are right that education is the key to success. The problem is that uneducated citizens have one vote just like educated ones. And the uneducated rabble is prime vote-buying grounds for the politicians who have made Louisiana a third world state. Those who need education the most will continue to vote for politicians and policies that doom educational and therefore economic and social progress. Sadly, there is no way out of this cycle of failure.
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that of the entire delegation that represents this state the majority are most definitely not of any kind "we speak for the downtrodden" bent. And then there's the governor that we all already know about. Conservatives are paranoid. And, for goodness sakes, why would anyone of there right-wing want to trade places with a poor person? They seem to have this idea that someone living in the inner city earning minimum or very low wages, possibly with children, possibly without one or both parents, and not having very much in funds to spend on education, is just living the life of Riley. And getting the education and a good-paying job is the key. When people get a chance to do that, it's less likely that they'll be having more children that they can't take care of and otherwise be a burden on the state and statistics bear that out, as in that the level of education a person has and the number of children people have have an inverse relationship. But, oh no, the conservative crowd would rather have their almighty tax cut even if that means that others end up with less opportunity and ability to take that step up and better themselves through education. However, the worst hypocrisy is that the conservative crowd is saying that the budget cuts are necessary because everyone knows that the state being able to run a surplus was not going to be forever. They say that now. But...they knew that very well last year, too, when they just had to rush to roll back the Stelly plan. The state spends too much and should cut the overall budget? OK, fine. Still, there's definitely a smart way and a stupid way to go about addressing that situation, even this is something else that the right wing crowd will never acknowledge, and the way that Jindal and co. are going about this is the stupid way. Notice that the governor has so very little backbone when it comes to problem-solving and acting in the state's best interest. He initially had reservations about the rollback of the Stelly plan but then claimed it was his idea all along, just like with the legislators' pay raise one day he was for it, albeit quietly, and the next day he was against it, albeit only after much outcry. What's politically expedient this time? The "loud majority" of this conservative state says "education, we don't need no stinkin' education." On that, there's no doubt about it whatsoever that crippling education will make for a worse economic outlook for the state. The states where education and higher education are priorities are the states that are going to have the better job growth outlook, period. The examples are too numerous. Those things go hand in hand. It's just really sad that there's so much short-sightedness in this state.
Written by The Real Story is on 5/31/2009
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It's not "some poor lady on welfare" it's a majority of voters in any electoral district that are dependent upon government who elect those who take from taxpayers to garner the support of those on the dole. That's how the poor get power (or rather those who represent the poor get power). I think those who represent the downtrodden WANT them to remain poor - that way they can retain their power. That explains the poor schools and also the government paying people to have children when they are teenagers - insuring they and their offspring will remain poor and needy on government. New Orleans is an example of this. I saw recently that the 3 states with the highest tax rates also have the biggest deficits(a lesson there perhaps?). Also states that have high estates taxes have huge portions of retired people moving to states that do not (I wonder why?). I am glad to hear that liberal politicians do not take campaign contributions from big money, that's very uplifting to know.
Written by kpf on 5/31/2009
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha oh my my my, conservatism vs. liberalism, good vs. evil, c'mon really?
Written by Sid on 5/31/2009
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that conservatives never acknowledge that Mr. Fat Cat CEO can buy the government that he wants and it happens all the time, e.g. chicken plant getting $50 million or whatever. Just about every state has done some kind of corporate welfare. No one can get elected without donations, period, and much of that comes from businesses and the CEO class. Conservatives would have everyone believe that some poor lady on welfare carries a lot of weight with your average Congressman and that's totally laughable. What is a person in such a position going to be able to donate as compared to Mr. CEO? As always the Golden Rule is in force: He Who Has the Gold Gets to Make the Rules. Like it or not that's life. Liberalism is about trying to roll that back to what extent it can be rolled back, which isn't much, and conservative-ism is about trying to fight against liberalism and uphold The Golden Rule. Now...did everyone has the gold actually earn it? Some did. Many did not. That's just the fact of the matter. Of those who don't have the gold, how many are looking to "cheat" to try to get ahead and how many are content to try to earn it? Who knows? But what is known for certain is that some are have's and many are have-not's. Is our nation and state better off when The Golden Rule gets to enforced to the max or better off when people get a decent chance to get ahead and better themselves?
Written by The Real Story is on 5/30/2009
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jindal is putting hardworking taxpayers ahead of pompous academicians. I think LSU graduated about 3400 students this semester. Doesn't exactly sound like higher ed is out of business to me.
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Alabama has 16 public universities and colleges not community colleges and Louisiana has 19. Similar sized states similar number of higher learning institutions.(this counts LSU - Alexandria as a separate "university" just like the various Uiversity of Alabama locations..for comparisons sake) So who says we have to many public universities?
Written by Sid on 5/30/2009
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Didn't Jindal say something about using the rainy day fund to help with avoiding education cuts or was I dreaming?
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Jindal is putting Republican presidential primary voters ahead of Louisiana college students.
Written by David Quidd on 5/30/2009
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I must say that this dialogue and the witty comments has brightened my day.
Written by Sid on 5/30/2009
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"I didn't miss you - it was nice not having your asinine head-injury-produced schizo blather on every page"...ROFL, Dr.Tee!....... did I read that WB has an Escalade?...whoa-- dats nice-- do you sleep in it too, WB?...you traded-in the pick-up truck?..(you know I'm playin')
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Anyways, speaking of Cadillacs, I have been doing some intensive agrigrultural experiments..... Outstanding results... I am getting an approximate 1000% increase in crop yeild versus what is the norm that is stated by agricultural 'experts' on a per acre basis..... Getting ready to catch several other varieties before the seed season ends here..... Oh, and the Cadillac, one of my very favorite vegetables is the Honey Dew mellon..... I am going to see what those do, getting ready to set up on some land for a commercial crop for next years market if we still have a market.... And if not, well, I can find a whole bunch of people on fixed incomes to sell on the side of the road for me. Maybe make a chain from Lafayette to New Orleans.... Probably off them for a buck fifty or 2 each, they can probably sell all day long at 3 to 4 apiece and make a nice little kitty each week to help them cover some of the soaring expenses that are going to be more prevalant and are right around the corner...... Might put a grand or so extra in their pocket each month up until June when the prices drop to around 4 apiece in the stores... I guess it will help them..... should have a sizable showing by March? Got another friend of mine does hydroponics up in Jeanerette.. I was generally interested but wasn't to crazy about the restrictive crop medium he was raising... Tomatos, or Tomatoes, ehhh, you know the old story... Raises them organically..... I would like to do a few things with aquaculture and of course a few things in forestry/timber management.. Takes some money... But the approaches I would be advocating generally, or at least from small scale experiments of mine in the past have yielded a 5 to 1 minimum ratio advantage in ultimate production paradigms.... Don't know if you remember Bio Sphere II out in Arizona back in the 90's..... Forget the name of the professor in charge of that, we communicated off and on when I guess it was the Hunt boys that were financing it.... He took off on some crazy tangents... I was doing some private research at the time and was interested in sharing some of my techniques with him.... Ahhh, those professor types.. So closed minded a lot of the time... Anyways, the project went belly up... So much for management... I like to stay at the Conquistidore in Oracle when I'm out that way...... Got a nice bungalo and the golf course is outstanding..... But anyways, hotter than 10 degrees of added hell this week but the plants luvs it!!!! Have you noticed a lot of our produce is coming from south of the border lately? This is a very troublesome indicator in the viability of our overall economy.... I hope these putzes wake up before the curtain closes.... Could be fairly rough for many come next October, November... Unemployment is starting to be felt in the lower tiers here in the Southern Region of Louisiana..... I toss out some extra standby work to some locals when I can... Not much, nickle and dimes really, but I guess those things are starting to really count in today's terms.... Hope T-duhbbbb don't need no plumber too soon..... Those of us with those skills are probably going to start socking it to them so we can have tax dollars to support their frivalities..... Wut goes around comes around, time to stop the craziness and get value/worth appraisal on situations and cause a more productive program or dirction to manifest... Well, have a good week, I have to be off and about checking things out.........
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Of course you have to understand that while I am driving I am singing: "And I'll have fun - fun - fun till they take the Escalade awaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy........."
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Kp, where do you think I got it from? Hey, when in Rome, do as the Roman's do I guess?
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You have a Cadillac? You should be forced to give it up and drive a more climate friendly vehicle!! I will report you to the NKVD immediately!
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Saw your prior post Kp, Unfortunately our state government doesn’t have to print money, it merely has to rest it away from those that earn it one way or another with the power of police action to enforce their whims, aims and desires… Jindal right now, to placate, and of course put the burden on the shoulders of the legislatures is considering allowing them to ‘tap’ into the rainy day fund to appease a portion of our bloated state run ‘workfare’ mechanisms (higher education, whatever that is) so they can get a paycheck….. And of course the rainy day is going to come, the money will be gone and then more waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! WHERE DO WE GET MORE MUNIES!?!?!?!??? Will be wailed by the masses who all of a sudden have to go out and wash dishes, dig ditches, make gardens, save their pennies (if they are still around or worth anything)….. Yeah, I’m happy Kp. I was sweating like a pig yesterday, covered with shi^ from head to toe (a sewage line blew up on me) and laughing my arse off as I drove around a brand new Cadillac Escalade in air conditioning comfort while going to the hardware store to pick up some PVC glue to fix the problem…. Life can give you a chuckle every now and then….. Had a really nice bottle of wine last night…… Ahhhhhhh, keeping up appearances, I guess that’s what it is all about??????
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Dr. Albert Samuels on 5/29/2009 a global, information- based economy????? Doc, ehhhh,, wuts up wit dat???? This ‘service’ based economy is in the toilet, so what on earth is a “knowledge” based economy going to do…??? I like how you cloak it in the politically insipid term; “information- based economy” but that is basically what you are trying to argue. It is merely mesmerizing the masses star trek style from looking at one failed goal and bringing up an alternate course…. Some one has to do the work around here, we can’t all live on the taxpayer’s dime ya know…… Look genius, reduce costs, reduce waste, reduce costs of living, increase standards of decent and desired living conditions, get production values up, and straighten out about 30,000 errant tangents we as a nation are on and we will find relative harmony, tranquility, prosperity, comfort and security in a physical sense. The rest is up to and between each individual and God….. I am not asking you to agree, or agree to disagree, or anything of the sort, what I am asking is for folks that labor under the trains of thought or philosophies which this “educated/doctor/lawyer/teacher/politician/ etc., etc. etc. smarty pants types seem to fall under or for to kindly pull your collective heads out of your collective asses for a couple of years so that the rest of us men out here that make things work can get things back on track, yet again………….. Thank you….. Because y’all are beginning to be a tremendous pain in our asses and we can’t get shi^ done with you chuckle heads standing around telling us how to make it work, how to do the work, and pulling the money for it out of our wallets… An d then blaming us when your daydreams go up like a poof of smoke in the chimney….. Give us a god dammmmmmmmmmmmm break we are going blind from all the bull shi^ we are being forced to eat for Go-‘sake…….
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Mr. Real Story, those in government that "Big Money" panders to and makes contributions to is an indication of just how much power SOME in government have. Not all government employees are powerless bureaucrats - or did you not already know that? I am consistent in distrusting BOTH the arrogant cigar smoking fat cat CEO AND the arrogant cigar smoking fat cat elected official. The difference is the government official can FORCE me to do without my money whereas the private company must CONVINCE me to spend my hard earned dollars on their product (unless they can bribe an elected official to "bail-out" their greed and stupidity with my tax dollars).
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Written by on 5/29/2009………. I think you bumped your head…… about 80% of the state budget in education for about 5 or 10 years????????????????????? We can take all that cash and turn New Orleans into another Dubai.///????????????????????? Yeah right………. How about just taking some of that state money, getting some STRONGCONCRETE on line and then see what your options are in 5 or 10 years… Oh, and T-bluhhhhhhhbbbb…… Nice try to back-peddle and c.y.a. after you found out you were punked yet again (how typical of you) and it is good to see you are still pretty well bonkers on all accounts… Oh, and hiding? No toot-sweet, been making some progress on quite a few fronts… It is sort of boring but, busy, busy, busy….. Now move along T-bluhb, move along….. Your short sided self serving rants or sort of tedious…. But then again, you want to argue a case on its merits…. I recall that it wasn’t all that long ago that Doctors were teaching students about the applications of leeches to the human body to suck the evil spirits’ out.. Your problem T-duhhhhbbbb is you want to fart and get offended when none is agreeing with you when you try to claim they smell like roses and should be enjoyed equally by all…. What an ultra maroon……….
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Like the vice-president said, keeping what you've earned is now officially un-American in the new Obamerica. And denying unlimited funds to each and every public university that wants to aspire to greatness (read spend more money than their peer institutions) is anti-education.
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In your vision of a world, how does earning something honestly automatically translate into resisting having it taxed and regulated away for the benefit of others? Are you such a loser that you believe anyone who succeeds has cheated you of something?
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that quite a few of those who already have the gold and fight hard against letting anyone who doesn't have it get a chance never exactly earned it in the first place themselves.
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Glad you chose the phrase "get some" instead of "earn some". It's the only part of your post that's accurate.
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that being liberal still does mean being distrustful of those in power. Where, after all, is the real power in this country and in this state? It's with those who have the funds to buy off the politicians that they want to buy off. Conservatives claim that people who work in government have the power, which is laughable. If you're a government bureaucrat, what kind of salary do you make? Peanuts, unless you're very well connected to the government and in some kind of special position. But even then if you're that person you know that you'd being doing better in the private sector. No, the golden rule still applies. "He who has the gold makes the rules." Conservative-ism is all about letting the ones who have the gold keep it and add more to it, no matter at whose expense that is. Liberalism is about letting those who don't have it get a chance to get some.
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"Liberal" doesn't mean what it used to. Liberal - 200 + years ago - meant distrust of those in positions of power (a.k.a. "government"), personal freedom (property rights, etc) above government intrusion; whereas now "liberal" means complete government control of as much of our lives as the people are willing to put up with. Yeah, our Founding Fathers were "liberals", me too, so is the Libertarian Party; that is hardly pertinant to our state's need to cut expenses.
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Flood protection, medical care, care for the elderly, education ... maybe we cannot afford to fund all - or any - of these to the level those associated with them desire. Perhaps we need to prioritize. I am grateful our state government does not have the option of deficit spending or (egads!) printing money as our federal legislators have.
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Sully, I'll give credit for America's greatness to Franklin, Jefferson, Washington, and don't forget James Madison. I don't agree with your label of them as liberal, but I won't argue that point. But no one can dispute the liberalism of those in the modern area, LBJ, Clinton, Obama, Kennedy, and countless others. And the parts of American life that we can attribute to these kinds of liberals over the last 50 or so years can hardly be called great or even good for that matter.
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I have nothing but admiration for education. I have hostility and little respect for educational institutions that are inefficient, self-aggrandizing, and unwilling to accept blame for their own failures. -- As far as liberalism, it is the religion of those who cannot succeed on their own, and who demand resources from others to reach their own selfish goals.
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I am very familiar with at least one School within LSU. I received a degree from this School many years ago. In the years since, enrollment has declined. The director of the school, the faculty and alumni work diligently year in and year out to keep the School alive. They changed the name of the School, changed the name of the degrees offered, modified courses, etc. But the fact is that they offer degrees in a field that is stagnant or growing very slowly and in which other schools in state and elsewhere have grown while they floundered. And the other schools have smaller budgets, less fabled professorships, poorer facilities, etc. But at LSU, no one ever considers anything except calculated strategies to grow and expand the School. The school at LSU has focused on masters and PhD programs at the expense of undergrad programs. That's because the grad programs are designed to bring in grant money to bolster faculty pay and status and to provide grad students to do their work. But because they've neglected the small money undergrad program, they have no feeder program for their grad programs. Students from other schools with bachelors degrees have no loyalty or respect for LSU because of their failure at the undergrad level. So this is one simple example of higher ed promoting itself instead of its mission of education. LSU's flagship agenda has ruined this once proud program, and although the quest for money never ends, money will not resolve this problem.
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No-Name, my Creole grandmother couldn't speak a word of English and couldn't read or write either French or English because out there in Cameron Parish the state didn't bother with schools at all at first. When the State finally remembered there were tax-payers in the Parish, it sent only North Louisiana teachers to teach French-speakers in English. That was North Louisiana English at that! Still, my uneducated grandmother never felt that lack of an education meant she was stupid. It just meant she was uneducated. There's a difference. Education is like a tool, since if a person has it some things are done more easily. Lack of education is like lack of certain tools. I don't know where you get your hostility to education and to liberals from, but I suggest that the best part of American life today is due to educated liberals like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and Benjamin Franklin, among others.
Written by Robert Desmarais Sullivan on 5/29/2009
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in every state that's a decent place to live and whose economies have done well over the past 25 years and/or figure to bounce back better if/when the current recession runs its course higher education IS considered very, very important, if not exactly sacred. Here we are in Louisiana and the line seems to be "education, we don't need no stinkin' education!" And then we wonder why there are crime problems and teenage pregnancy problems and drug problems and political corruption and people having to leave the state to get a good job. The mentality of a backward backwater indeed! Are the universities and colleges asking for something excessive? How? When the fact is that for years and years higher education has been underfunded. Only when somehow there's some windfall effect do they get to be funded like they should be, like the governor's own preferred formula says that they ought to be. But here comes the governor to say "oh no we have to have tax cuts instead!" OK, fine, but pay for your blessed tax cuts without crippling higher education, please. And Jindal's been in health care and in higher education (although probably only nominally so in his mind biding his time for next step up) so he ought well to know the fact that the state constitution, in tight times, ties the legislature's hands to put the tight squeeze on those areas. The right-wing talkers seem to just love to talk about cutting evil government but it's almost always in pure vague generalities. But all thay want is tax cuts and budget cuts and they care about nothing else. That's not leadership. It's not problem-solving. It's just garbage that will lead to the state being worse off, not better, which we all should know well from our own experience over the past 20-25 years when indeed there have been lots of cuts to higher education (that have worked out quite well for our economy, haven't they?). Do people think they could the fat and waste and be able to avoid crippling higher education? OK, great! Let's see some specifics, please, as in names, departments, programs, agencies, what-have-you and why those won't be missed if they're closed down. Oh and BTW I will even offer this up as a start: how about all of the high-salaried types that this supposed fiscal conservative governor has brought in while at the same time there's supposed to heva been a hiring freeze? But seriously there has to be a serious, strategic plan with everything brought on the table and then with meaningful priorities set and not just straight, even-steven across-the-board budget cuts as the current rules allow.
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Isn't it up to university administrators to make strategic decisions and to allocate their budgets (whether growing or shrinking) in a manner that focuses their resources to move that institution forward? But what happens is just like any state agency - they never want to make hard choices, but try to protect their turf, and maintain every program regardless of efficiency or need. They are wise enough to know that if they cut the fat, no one will miss it, and they won't have a case to scream for more funding next time around. Higher education is important, but it is not sacred, and it is not the magic cure for all of Louisiana's woes. The wail of complaints is just what we should expect from a well-educated, well-organized, and non-accountable special interest group.
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The Real Story gets what I was trying to say. It is extremely naive to believe that in a global, information- based economy that a state that rips its higher education system to shreds has a prayer of creating a dynamic economy with plenty of good jobs and a high quality of life. In particular, you pointed out to the lack of a strategic vision on the part of the governor and the state's leaders that is truly disturbing. Probably more than anything else, my beef is not simply that colleges are being cut - but it's been done with no clear sense of what harm it will do and how this makes the state better off in the long run. This is precisely the time when the state needs strategic vision to focus its limited resources on a set of priorities that will move the state forward - so that my kids who are 8 and 5 years old respectively don't feel that they have to leave Louisiana when they become adults in order to get a good job. So far the governor seems more interested in nurturing his national political ambitions than providing the state the kind of leadership that it needs.
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I forgot that no one is allowed to exaggerate for effect except the genius teedee. The simple point is that higher ed, like all education, and most other liberal programs, is constantly seeking more money. When they get an increase, it's not enough. When they get a standstill, it is doom and gloom, and when they get a cut, the world comes to an end. Nothing in this populist backwoods state is funded properly. But higher ed takes the pompous position that funding them will solve all of the other problems. But we'll never know if that is true, because as I've said, they will NEVER get the budget that they claim to need to make those miracles happen. If they were funded at the top of the regional averages, they'd claim that they have all of those years of neglect to catch up from and would still tell us to keep the money coming and wait for that miracle. Just do your damn job the best you can with what you've got and quit whining. That's what real working people do.
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Smitty (Ellipsis Man), I didn't miss you - it was nice not having your asinine head-injury-produced schizo blather on every page. Please do us all (liberal and conservative alike) a favor and go back to wherever your were hiding the last few weeks! And as for no-name... you reduce an argument about adequate funding for universities ad absurdum - your argument is completely ridiculous, and even an idiot like you should know better than that. Can't you argue your case on its merits? Apparently not. And no one here is making a "big business" argument - we're making a simple economic one. Where are Americans most prosperous? Are there well-funded universities there? These are simple economic facts, not a just-so story made up by university personnel to justify their existence! And I don't work for a state university, so please don't haul out that tired line again. Sometimes I think Louisiana gets just what it deserves - Bobby Jindal being Exhibit A of that premise - that fool isn't thinking about our state - he's already running for the Republican presidential nomination, and we can all just go to hell in his mind. He's showing ZERO leadership right now, just like Dan and I told you he would. Pathetic. Simply pathetic. Too bad you morons have to drag the rest of us down with you. Thanks a ton. TW
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Amazing how much faith you liberals put into the opinions of big business when they are on your side in an argument. Will you value their opinions as much when they are fighting higher taxes and strongarm union plots???
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If you listen to the leaders of higher education, they suffered in good times when their budgets were increasing. There is not enough money in the entire state budget to satisfy them. Remember, their self-serving analysis "proves" that investment in higher education results in supremely manifested multiplier effects. Maybe we should invest about 80% of the state budget in education for about 5 or 10 years or so. Once that investment is multiplied so many times according to their reports, Louisiana's budget problems will be over forever. Taxes on all of that windfall economic activity will allow us to catch up in every facet of the economy. We can take all that cash and turn New Orleans into another Dubai. --
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that if you look at Forbes magazine's listing of the best places to be for job availability the majority of them are cities with a well respected university located there or near there, e.g. Charlottesville, VA, Raleigh, NC, Austin, TX. Those who feel like we can let higher education languish here and still have a state that's a place where people will want to live and where there will be plenty of good jobs available are just completely clueless and probably poorly educated themselves, to boot. Too bad there are too many people like that in this state. One could question the author of this article on his defense of having so many 4-year institutions as opposed to having the large number of junior colleges like, say, Mississippi does. One could also take the approach of "let's try to cut the budget but make sure to do so strategically and surgically so the services that people do need are not crippled." But the governor isn't doing that. The budget-hawk state House members aren't doing that. And the right-wing commenters aren't doing that. There needs to be a strategic plan with clearly-identifed specific priorities of what to cut back. Higher education is having to suffer because that's the way it's always been because that's what the state constitution allows. In spite of exhortations even from leaders of private business no one is really trying to do any hard work of figuring it how to make things work except for the state senators whose proposals the governor opposes and that's where the tragedy is.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, T-Bluhb, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, u ultra maroon you.... And you taught u wuZ written 2 me..... Wut a cartoon characature you are...... Anyways, rush down to the local wally world and buy some pilgrim pride chicken that is on sale at the freezer section, thank bobby Jindal for allowing the state taxpayer to absorb PP's bad investment asset, and while you are whining about people being overworked and too stupid figure this one out Sherlock, one year of STRONGCONCRETE would have easily saved the State 100 million, and I made my offers several years ago, so think about it...... RHODES SCHOLARS?!?!?!????? Ha! I saw this crap comming 15 years ago and took the time, even though I am uneducated, to design my own technology, test it to my satisfaction, and develop it to what I felt was sufficient enough for the nay sayers. And at the same time, I wrote my own patent, rendered my own mechanical drawings, and forwarded it to the USPTO........ Guess what slick, I didn't need 6 years of engineering, etc., etc., etc. to turn out and get a patent for one of the most advanced concrete reinforcement technologies that has become advent during the course of the past 4 decades. Sorry about my lack of education, I sort of ran away from the foster home, and joined the Marine Corp when I was a kid... Highschool was some pretty boring crap and I sure didn't want to get locked into some university box routine... Ta-ta you snide old prude..... Thought written by wuz me, but it was simply another amongst the many that have come to the conclusions I have.... You educated folks are really screwing things up for us working folks.....
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I suppose training future doctors isn't important in your world, no-name? You don't think that's important to the future of our nation? But I do agree that good house painters are very important people - but often hard to find, in my experience. TW
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teedee, take a powder guy. I don't have the power to dry up your gravy train. And I never said anyone was lazy, I don't which voice planted that idea in your head. But working hard doesn't guarantee results if you're an employee of an inefficient, failing organization. And don't apply your "frustrated, undereducated, overworked, resentful, underpaid" label to me, because we all know how much you resent bloggers assuming incorrect facts about you. But if you want inaccurately use me to point out that class of Louisiana citizens, then don't object when I use you to illustrate an example of an elitist academician who has declared himself vitally important to the state and the nation, when in fact, a good yard man or house painter has contributed more real productivity to the economy than you ever will.
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You don't think teachers work hard, no-name? You, oh wise one, _you_ can tell, just from reading posts to a blog, that Mr. Sullivan is lazy? You are truly a pathetic creature. I won't pretend to know how hard you work - I would imagine that you work too hard, like most of the undereducated folks in this country, and therein lies some of your resentment toward those whom you view (misplaced as your ideas are) as "elites". I do have two things that I will guarantee to you now: 1.) The vast majority of teachers work harder than most folks in this country, and 2.) they do so for very little money. My hat's off to them - they have an extremely important job that offers them very little monetary reward. Finally, do you really not see the link between education and economic productivity? Why not compare attained educational levels for each state with its average household income? They will be highly correlated, to say the least. Of course, this is beyond your capabilities, which you would never admit - rather, you will dryly suggest that to do so is beneath you, because you "know" you're smarter than any pointy-eared intellectual "elitist". And you know universities just lie to justify the continuation of the gravy train, and all the other tired "arguments" you so frequently fart out here. And yes, I hold you, and your "intellect" (lack thereof, really) in complete and utter contempt. If that makes me an elitist, then so be it. TW
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Poor Sully, sounds like your income may be performance-based, too bad. Or could the sad state of education at the high school level be (at least partially) the result of some of the other liberal policies you love so much?
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Some of the comments responding to this article demonstrate clearly the problem we face in Louisiana. The obvious disrespect shown here for intellectual work is widespread. To call the author a commie or self-serving is petty at best. There is no country or culture in the world that survives and prospers without intellectual work. It requires energy and devotion to master languages, sciences, and the other knowledge that the human race has developed over the past ten thousand years. Our culture, therefore our state, will prosper and survive to the extent we pay people to give their time and energy to intellectual work. For me, it is obscene to pay athletes, entertainers and CEO's the exorbitant salaries we pay them. As a high-school teacher of 34 years, I have the lowest income of my peers who graduated from Tulane with me. I am choosing to retire from the classroom this year because I had enough this past year of students complaining they had to work "too hard"! They were not working too hard: they were hardly working. It's possible to choose to remain uneducated only so long before the entire community unravels.
Written by Robert Desmarais Sullivan on 5/29/2009
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One more question for the Doc. In your case against performance-based funding, you state that incoming students at Southern are more poorly prepared than those at many other institutions. Accepting that logic, do you propose that Southern University makes up that gap during four years, or can we also assume that those who manage to graduate from SU are still less prepared than those from bigger institutions? I think that employers would like to know if you agree that diplomas aren't all equal.
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Ol' teabagger, still firmly convinced that in higher education, the measure of success is entirely based on dollars spent, especially when those dollars are tax dollars. Obviously, we ignorant taxpayers are too slow-witted to understand their empires, so academicians alone should be allowed to evaluate their importance, and to set their own budgets as well. --- I know he denies sucking that government teat, but he's a leech like the rest of them. (Now I'm expecting a biology review on whether we actually have leeches in Louisiana).
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Even more proof (as if you needed it).
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It never dawned on me how much the entire education lobby in this state is nothing but a bunch of thugish communists until this session. Everyone knows we have too many universities but mention it and your likely to get a knock on your door in the middle of the night. as for leeches, just look at the total amount of competitive research our beloved universities win and you have your answer. Throw in the charity hospital commies and this own situation is pathetic and dangerous.
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The saddest thing is that this state is chock full of idiots like the last guy, and that's why we continue to rank 49th or 50th on so many lists. TW
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The author of this story is one more in a long line of academics who use their taxpayer funded status as experts to feather their own nests. Just like biased economic impact studies by universities "documenting" their own importance.
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that it's arguable that the state has a very friendly business climate in terms of a bounteous supply of available cheap labor as well as politicians willing to kowtow and do things like give $50 million to a chicken plant. Business seems to be unable to ever be satisfied.
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that the author of this article is no more a self-serving leech than the obstinate and unhelpful Republican governor who cares more about his national ambitions than the best interest of the state.
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self-serving leech
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