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Louisiana Pay Raise Gate: Certain Legislators Still Wrong


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  by Jeff Sadow, Ph.D.

Flawed arguments show LA legislators still don’t get it

 

By remarks made after Gov. Bobby Jindal vetoed a doubling of Louisiana legislators’ salaries to full-time pay, at least a pair of state lawmakers shows they still don’t get it, lending clues as to why legislators as a whole were so incredibly myopic on this issue.

 

Facing constituents, House Speaker Jim Tucker, widely viewed as the driving force behind the effort to boost annual pay for a position defined in the Constitution as part-time to a level higher than the annual median family income in the state, and state Rep. Jeff Arnold defended their actions to vote for it through a mishmash of curious if suspect  supportive arguments, sob stories, and actual dissembling.

 

Tucker argued that such a large raise was needed because the Legislature needs people from all walks of life. He cited a story about how educators, attorneys, professionals, and those in medicine turned him down as he solicited candidates for last year legislative races, allegedly proving higher pay as needed.

 

All such a statement shows is Tucker doesn’t know who is in the very body he runs, is rather dismissive of them, and can’t even think about the issue logically. I count 26 attorneys in the House, as well as two in the medical field (pharmacy), two educators (and four more who are retired from that profession), and several people in what are considered professional fields. So it would seem that enough people from these walks of life are throwing themselves out there even as others decline; where’s the problem?

 

Tucker empirically could have had a better case if he had had noted that among the 26 attorneys, three agricultural operators, 24 business owners, two educators, eight managers, three executives, nine in the financial industry, two pharmacists, six in sales, five self-employed, and 11 retirees that you didn’t see a lot in the way of clerks, construction workers, unemployed, welfare recipients, etc. who make up a vastly larger cross-section of the population than those from occupations listed by House members. Naturally, he couldn’t, because he knows (or maybe if he doesn’t he should) that defeats his very argument.

 

If one argues that to attract a cross-section of the public requires the offering of a full-time salary, you must argue that if you get them to run and elected because of the salary, they no longer are representative of some segment of the population because their natures have been changed. They cease being clerks, construction workers, unemployed, welfare recipients, etc. because now they have been changed into full-time legislators. That is, you will have greater, more thorough representation of the public by part-time legislators, most of who must hold down regular jobs, because they have these very jobs despite the predominance of upper-class occupations they represent, than in creating a new class of professional legislators.

 

Perhaps another uncomfortable fact Tucker doesn’t want known which destroys his argument is that the $16,800 (which, when other income that a typical legislator can draw is added in about doubles on an annual basis) current base salary already attracts full-time legislators in the House. Two, state Reps. Kay Katz and Karen St. Germain, list their occupations as “legislator.” Another, state Rep. Bodi White, doesn’t list one so we may assume the same of him. So why boost the salary when it’s already good enough for some as a sole occupation?

 

There’s yet another flaw in Tucker’s argument that full-time salaries will attract a more diverse cross-section of society to legislative service: the same willingness for many to run for the job at the current salary level allows them to campaign for the job to get there in the first place. Tucker essentially assumes that the full-time salary means people can “afford” to quit another job to serve as a legislator. But he neglects to add that running for a legislative seat is itself a full-time job requiring at the least several months of campaigning. Even if they can afford to quit after taking the position, these people thinking after election they could quit their jobs could not afford to quit months prior to campaign not even knowing they’ll get the job. In fact, this raise would have given the Legislature an even more upper-class “bias,” because with the higher salary as an incentive campaigners will spend even more money and time to win the increased reward, pricing out even more thoroughly the segment of the population that cannot make the sacrifices easily to run.

 

In a way, Tucker’s argument insults his colleagues. Paralleling the same flawed argument as with raising teacher pay, essentially he’s accusing present legislators of being lacking in some way that higher pay magically would cure. After all, if higher pay attracts “better” legislators in some ways, then does he not imply this present lower pay level in some fashion leaves us with a chamber full of “worse” legislators?

 

At least Tucker didn’t stoop to the whining of Arnold, who asserted the demands of his legislative service cost him a recent job. Oh, this is a tough one: if Arnold wasn’t so enamored with the power and privilege that comes with being a member of the House and his job was so important to him, he would have resigned his seat and kept his job. Nobody forced him to run for office and nobody put a gun to his head to keep him in it and, frankly, with that attitude there probably are more competent people in his district that ought to hold his job.

 

But Tucker did flat out lie about one thing and then falsely tried to de-legitimize arguments against the raise. His claim that the raise would not increase legislators’ retirement incomes blatantly disregards the fact that for 17 of them it would have. Further, he insinuated that misinformation as a whole served to unfairly mischaracterize the argument for the raise, saying information “through the blogs and through the radio, was so wrong in so many instances that it was hard to even begin to come back with the facts.”

 

I don’t hear every talk show and I don’t read every blog so I don’t know whether there’s truth to what he says. But here are the facts, as I have presented before in this space, about the present and current salary levels (including base pay and per diem) among southern states:

 

  • Currently, Louisiana trails only Florida in pay; obviously the new level would have put typical Louisiana legislator pay at over $11,000 more a year that Florida’s.
  • In pay per capita, Louisiana currently ranks third trailing only the two states with lower populations Arkansas and Mississippi; the new level would have far exceeded any of these states and be almost 40 percent higher than Arkansas’.
  • Louisiana now also trails only Florida in pay percent of per capita income where Florida lawmakers make 107 percent of the average resident’s income and Louisiana is at 93 percent, with the vetoed increase putting Louisiana’s legislators’ pay at a whopping 160 percent of per capita income.
  • The idea of the necessity of a raise is beyond absurd when one considers the return on investment for the current level: one look at hyper-critic C.B. Forgotston’s “Misery Index” with the vast majority of its good categories having Louisiana in the bottom ten states and of its bad categories having the state in the top ten also tells it all – there’s little bang for the buck from the Legislature currently, so why throw good money after bad, especially when peer states for less money are doing far better?

 

What’s most derelict about Tucker’s defense is that he seems too dull to get it through his head that the vast public outcry against the raise came not because of distortion of his argument, but because it was an illogical, weak argument to begin with that so many saw through so easily. And in the final analysis, that’s why he and so many other legislators seemed stunned at the overwhelming negative reaction to it: they create such a cocoon for themselves in the artificial environment comprising of the Capitol complex and a few watering holes in Baton Rouge that they suspend critical faculties in relating their atypical existences to the larger, outside world.

 

A cocoon, that is, that would be reinforced by making the job full-time. Which in the end was perhaps the single greatest reason why the raise was truly such a bad idea.

 

Jeff Sadow is an associate professor of political science at Louisiana State University Shreveport; his views are his own. He received his Ph.D. at the University of New Orleans and has observed state politics for over two decades. You may contact him at Jeffrey.Sadow@lsus.edu, read his daily commentary “Between the Lines” at http://www.between-lines.com, and his “Louisiana Legislature Log” at http://www.laleglog.com.





 












 

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Comments from BayouBuzz readers

Thank you for providing info on retirement. Some poeple were stating that the raise would only cost us 5 millioin per year, but I never heard anyone bring up the additional income on retirement. $27,000 to $60,000 ain't bad. I never made 60,000 as a school teacher. And that is just for the rank and file. Those boys, who know how to work the system would get evenmore.Excuse me ladies, but I am sure there are some of you. thanks for the info. Just think their retirement would have been more than 80 or 90 % in La. personal income. I really think that is where the push was really meant to be. thanks for info.
Written by Bobby on 7/2/2008
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He only did the right thing because he was forced to. If public pressure had not had of been so great and CNN back him in the corner over this he would have kept his word and not vetoed it. If Jindal would have stood up from the start and kept his campaign promise I would have appluaded him. Blanco's boy? Is that the best you can do? At least she stood her ground, she might of got rolled over but she took it. I'm no Blanco fan by any measure.
Written by Tony G on 7/2/2008
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Mama Blanco's boy Tony G just get over it. Nothing that the governor does will satisfy you. Give him some credit for doing the right thing.
Written by Not me on 7/2/2008
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I agree with you Tony G, where the pay raise is not a taboo subject, but the amount???? Ehhhh,, a couple of grand tops..... That said after it has been explained what all they get on top of the 'base' salary........... 21five is good enough for them....
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I believe they needed a raise. A flat three percent over the last 20 years comes out to approx 6K. I thinks that is reasonable. The problem lies we're getting two sides of a story. Who do you believe? It's not the fact they are myopic they were lied to or politically correctly put, misunderstood what they heard. Whatever the case, their amount was too much. There were words and pacts that were under the radar none of us in the public know and may never see the real truth. The fact that a person put themself in a dubious situation by fibbing twice on same account going each way on it proves he is void of integrity. His word means nothing. The Governor put himself in a no win situation. We need straight shooters. We don't need half truths, lies, or vague and non discriptive statements. The last thing we need is people trying to pull the wool over our eyes. I believe you tried twice in the last couple of weeks. Generally I enjoy your articles and opinions. Lately I have to wonder if you're on the Jindal Staff. The objectivity you had when Blanco was Governor is gone.
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