On Tuesday night, Barack Obama delivered what many appeared to be the most important political speech of his life.It covered a most “sensitive” issue—race in America and comments by Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
Here is the text of the speech.Tell us what you think:
Here, the full text of Sen. Barack Obama’s speech, “A More Perfect Union,” as prepared for delivery.
“We the people, in order to form a more perfect union.”
Two hundred and twenty one years ago, in a hall that still stands across the street, a group of men gathered and, with these simple words, launched America’s improbable experiment in democracy. Farmers and scholars; statesmen and patriots who had traveled across an ocean to escape tyranny and persecution finally made real their declaration of independence at a Philadelphia convention that lasted through the spring of 1787.
The document they produced was eventually signed but ultimately unfinished. It was stained by this nation’s original sin of slavery, a question that divided the colonies and brought the convention to a stalemate until the founders chose to allow the slave trade to continue for at least twenty more years, and to leave any final resolution to future generations.
Of course, the answer to the slavery question was already embedded within our Constitution – a Constitution that had at is very core the ideal of equal citizenship under the law; a Constitution that promised its people liberty, and justice, and a union that could be and should be perfected over time.
And yet words on a parchment would not be enough to deliver slaves from bondage, or provide men and women of every color and creed their full rights and obligations as citizens of the United States. What would be needed were Americans in successive generations who were willing to do their part – through protests and struggle, on the streets and in the courts, through a civil war and civil disobedience and always at great risk - to narrow that gap between the promise of our ideals and the reality of their time.
This was one of the tasks we set forth at the beginning of this campaign – to continue the long march of those who came before us, a march for a more just, more equal, more free, more caring and more prosperous America. I chose to run for the presidency at this moment in history because I believe deeply that we cannot solve the challenges of our time unless we solve them together – unless we perfect our union by understanding that we may have different stories, but we hold common hopes; that we may not look the same and we may not have come from the same place, but we all want to move in the same direction – towards a better future for of children and our grandchildren.
This belief comes from my unyielding faith in the decency and generosity of the American people. But it also comes from my own American story.
I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. I was raised with the help of a white grandfather who survived a Depression to serve in Patton’s Army during World War II and a white grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at FortLeavenworth while he was overseas. I’ve gone to some of the best schools in America and lived in one of the world’s poorest nations. I am married to a black American who carries within her the blood of slaves and slaveowners – an inheritance we pass on to our two precious daughters. I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, and for as long as I live, I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.
It’s a story that hasn’t made me the most conventional candidate. But it is a story that has seared into my genetic makeup the idea that this nation is more than the sum of its parts – that out of many, we are truly one.
Throughout the first year of this campaign, against all predictions to the contrary, we saw how hungry the American people were for this message of unity. Despite the temptation to view my candidacy through a purely racial lens, we won commanding victories in states with some of the whitest populations in the country. In South Carolina, where the Confederate Flag still flies, we built a powerful coalition of African Americans and white Americans.
This is not to say that race has not been an issue in the campaign. At various stages in the campaign, some commentators have deemed me either “too black” or “not black enough.” We saw racial tensions bubble to the surface during the week before the South Carolina primary. The press has scoured every exit poll for the latest evidence of racial polarization, not just in terms of white and black, but black and brown as well.
And yet, it has only been in the last couple of weeks that the discussion of race in this campaign has taken a particularly divisive turn.
On one end of the spectrum, we’ve heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action; that it’s based solely on the desire of wide-eyed liberals to purchase racial reconciliation on the cheap. On the other end, we’ve heard my former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, use incendiary language to express views that have the potential not only to widen the racial divide, but views that denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation; that rightly offend white and black alike.
I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely – just as I’m sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.
But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren’t simply controversial. They weren’t simply a religious leader’s effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country – a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.
As such, Reverend Wright’s comments were not only wrong but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity; racially charged at a time when we need to come together to solve a set of monumental problems – two wars, a terrorist threat, a falling economy, a chronic health care crisis and potentially devastating climate change; problems that are neither black or white or Latino or Asian, but rather problems that confront us all.
Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Reverend Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church? And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way
But the truth is, that isn’t all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God’s work here on Earth – by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS.
In my first book, Dreams From My Father, I described the experience of my first service at Trinity:
“People began to shout, to rise from their seats and clap and cry out, a forceful wind carrying the reverend’s voice up into the rafters….And in that single note – hope! – I heard something else; at the foot of that cross, inside the thousands of churches across the city, I imagined the stories of ordinary black people merging with the stories of David and Goliath, Moses and Pharaoh, the Christians in the lion’s den, Ezekiel’s field of dry bones. Those stories – of survival, and freedom, and hope – became our story, my story; the blood that had spilled was our blood, the tears our tears; until this black church, on this bright day, seemed once more a vessel carrying the story of a people into future generations and into a larger world. Our trials and triumphs became at once unique and universal, black and more than black; in chronicling our journey, the stories and songs gave us a means to reclaim memories that we didn’t need to feel shame about…memories that all people might study and cherish – and with which we could start to rebuild.”
That has been my experience at Trinity. Like other predominantly black churches across the country, Trinity embodies the black community in its entirety – the doctor and the welfare mom, the model student and the former gang-banger. Like other black churches, Trinity’s services are full of raucous laughter and sometimes bawdy humor. They are full of dancing, clapping, screaming and shouting that may seem jarring to the untrained ear. The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America.
And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions – the good and the bad – of the community that he has served diligently for so many years.
I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.
Some will see this as an attempt to justify or excuse comments that are simply inexcusable. I can assure you it is not. I suppose the politically safe thing would be to move on from this episode and just hope that it fades into the woodwork. We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias.
But race is an issue that I believe this nation cannot afford to ignore right now. We would be making the same mistake that Reverend Wright made in his offending sermons about America – to simplify and stereotype and amplify the negative to the point that it distorts reality.
The fact is that the comments that have been made and the issues that have surfaced over the last few weeks reflect the complexities of race in this country that we’ve never really worked through – a part of our union that we have yet to perfect. And if we walk away now, if we simply retreat into our respective corners, we will never be able to come together and solve challenges like health care, or education, or the need to find good jobs for every American.
Understanding this reality requires a reminder of how we arrived at this point. As William Faulkner once wrote, “The past isn’t dead and buried. In fact, it isn’t even past.” We do not need to recite here the history of racial injustice in this country. But we do need to remind ourselves that so many of the disparities that exist in the African-American community today can be directly traced to inequalities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered under the brutal legacy of slavery and Jim Crow.
Segregated schools were, and are, inferior schools; we still haven’t fixed them, fifty years after Brown v. Board of Education, and the inferior education they provided, then and now, helps explain the pervasive achievement gap between today’s black and white students.
Legalized discrimination - where blacks were prevented, often through violence, from owning property, or loans were not granted to African-American business owners, or black homeowners could not access FHA mortgages, or blacks were excluded from unions, or the police force, or fire departments – meant that black families could not amass any meaningful wealth to bequeath to future generations. That history helps explain the wealth and income gap between black and white, and the concentrated pockets of poverty that persists in so many of today’s urban and rural communities.
A lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one’s family, contributed to the erosion of black families – a problem that welfare policies for many years may have worsened. And the lack of basic services in so many urban black neighborhoods – parks for kids to play in, police walking the beat, regular garbage pick-up and building code enforcement – all helped create a cycle of violence, blight and neglect that continue to haunt us.
This is the reality in which Reverend Wright and other African-Americans of his generation grew up. They came of age in the late fifties and early sixties, a time when segregation was still the law of the land and opportunity was systematically constricted. What’s remarkable is not how many failed in the face of discrimination, but rather how many men and women overcame the odds; how many were able to make a way out of no way for those like me who would come after them.
But for all those who scratched and clawed their way to get a piece of the American Dream, there were many who didn’t make it – those who were ultimately defeated, in one way or another, by discrimination. That legacy of defeat was passed on to future generations – those young men and increasingly young women who we see standing on street corners or languishing in our prisons, without hope or prospects for the future. Even for those blacks who did make it, questions of race, and racism, continue to define their worldview in fundamental ways. For the men and women of Reverend Wright’s generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years. That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co-workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or around the kitchen table. At times, that anger is exploited by politicians, to gin up votes along racial lines, or to make up for a politician’s own failings.
And occasionally it finds voice in the church on Sunday morning, in the pulpit and in the pews. The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright’s sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning. That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change. But the anger is real; it is powerful; and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots, only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.
In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don’t feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience – as far as they’re concerned, no one’s handed them anything, they’ve built it from scratch. They’ve worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they’re told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.
Like the anger within the black community, these resentments aren’t always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition. Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends. Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.
Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze – a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns – this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.
This is where we are right now. It’s a racial stalemate we’ve been stuck in for years. Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy – particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.
But I have asserted a firm conviction – a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people – that working together we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice is we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union.
For the African-American community, that path means embracing the burdens of our past without becoming victims of our past. It means continuing to insist on a full measure of justice in every aspect of American life. But it also means binding our particular grievances – for better health care, and better schools, and better jobs - to the larger aspirations of all Americans — the white woman struggling to break the glass ceiling, the white man whose been laid off, the immigrant trying to feed his family. And it means taking full responsibility for own lives – by demanding more from our fathers, and spending more time with our children, and reading to them, and teaching them that while they may face challenges and discrimination in their own lives, they must never succumb to despair or cynicism; they must always believe that they can write their own destiny.
Ironically, this quintessentially American – and yes, conservative – notion of self-help found frequent expression in Reverend Wright’s sermons. But what my former pastor too often failed to understand is that embarking on a program of self-help also requires a belief that society can change.
The profound mistake of Reverend Wright’s sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It’s that he spoke as if our society was static; as if no progress has been made; as if this country – a country that has made it possible for one of his own members to run for the highest office in the land and build a coalition of white and black; Latino and Asian, rich and poor, young and old — is still irrevocably bound to a tragic past. But what we know — what we have seen – is that America can change. That is true genius of this nation. What we have already achieved gives us hope – the audacity to hope – for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.
In the white community, the path to a more perfect union means acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination - and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past - are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds – by investing in our schools and our communities; by enforcing our civil rights laws and ensuring fairness in our criminal justice system; by providing this generation with ladders of opportunity that were unavailable for previous generations. It requires all Americans to realize that your dreams do not have to come at the expense of my dreams; that investing in the health, welfare, and education of black and brown and white children will ultimately help all of America prosper.
In the end, then, what is called for is nothing more, and nothing less, than what all the world’s great religions demand – that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. Let us be our brother’s keeper, Scripture tells us. Let us be our sister’s keeper. Let us find that common stake we all have in one another, and let our politics reflect that spirit as well.
For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle – as we did in the OJ trial – or in the wake of tragedy, as we did in the aftermath of Katrina - or as fodder for the nightly news. We can play Reverend Wright’s sermons on every channel, every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she’s playing the race card, or we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies.
We can do that.
But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we’ll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change.
That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, “Not this time.” This time we want to talk about the crumbling schools that are stealing the future of black children and white children and Asian children and Hispanic children and Native American children. This time we want to reject the cynicism that tells us that these kids can’t learn; that those kids who don’t look like us are somebody else’s problem. The children of America are not those kids, they are our kids, and we will not let them fall behind in a 21st century economy. Not this time.
This time we want to talk about how the lines in the Emergency Room are filled with whites and blacks and Hispanics who do not have health care; who don’t have the power on their own to overcome the special interests in Washington, but who can take them on if we do it together.
This time we want to talk about the shuttered mills that once provided a decent life for men and women of every race, and the homes for sale that once belonged to Americans from every religion, every region, every walk of life. This time we want to talk about the fact that the real problem is not that someone who doesn’t look like you might take your job; it’s that the corporation you work for will ship it overseas for nothing more than a profit.
This time we want to talk about the men and women of every color and creed who serve together, and fight together, and bleed together under the same proud flag. We want to talk about how to bring them home from a war that never should’ve been authorized and never should’ve been waged, and we want to talk about how we’ll show our patriotism by caring for them, and their families, and giving them the benefits they have earned.
I would not be running for President if I didn’t believe with all my heart that this is what the vast majority of Americans want for this country. This union may never be perfect, but generation after generation has shown that it can always be perfected. And today, whenever I find myself feeling doubtful or cynical about this possibility, what gives me the most hope is the next generation – the young people whose attitudes and beliefs and openness to change have already made history in this election.
There is one story in particularly that I’d like to leave you with today – a story I told when I had the great honor of speaking on Dr. King’s birthday at his home church, Ebenezer Baptist, in Atlanta.
There is a young, twenty-three year old white woman named Ashley Baia who organized for our campaign in Florence, South Carolina. She had been working to organize a mostly African-American community since the beginning of this campaign, and one day she was at a roundtable discussion where everyone went around telling their story and why they were there.
And Ashley said that when she was nine years old, her mother got cancer. And because she had to miss days of work, she was let go and lost her health care. They had to file for bankruptcy, and that’s when Ashley decided that she had to do something to help her mom.
She knew that food was one of their most expensive costs, and so Ashley convinced her mother that what she really liked and really wanted to eat more than anything else was mustard and relish sandwiches. Because that was the cheapest way to eat.
She did this for a year until her mom got better, and she told everyone at the roundtable that the reason she joined our campaign was so that she could help the millions of other children in the country who want and need to help their parents too.
Now Ashley might have made a different choice. Perhaps somebody told her along the way that the source of her mother’s problems were blacks who were on welfare and too lazy to work, or Hispanics who were coming into the country illegally. But she didn’t. She sought out allies in her fight against injustice.
Anyway, Ashley finishes her story and then goes around the room and asks everyone else why they’re supporting the campaign. They all have different stories and reasons. Many bring up a specific issue. And finally they come to this elderly black man who’s been sitting there quietly the entire time. And Ashley asks him why he’s there. And he does not bring up a specific issue. He does not say health care or the economy. He does not say education or the war. He does not say that he was there because of Barack Obama. He simply says to everyone in the room, “I am here because of Ashley.”
“I’m here because of Ashley.” By itself, that single moment of recognition between that young white girl and that old black man is not enough. It is not enough to give health care to the sick, or jobs to the jobless, or education to our children.
But it is where we start. It is where our union grows stronger. And as so many generations have come to realize over the course of the two-hundred and twenty one years since a band of patriots signed that document in Philadelphia, that is where the perfection begins.
My opinion of Barrack, Hillary, and the rest is that they are completely out of touch with America and no more know what is needed than a dog that continuously chases its own tail. And for me, change? well, my change is on the way. And right now I think I am going to change my socks. They have grown a little smelly while walking in other people's moccasins. I probably caught their fungal infection. Written by ......On and on.
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My, that is mighty white of you T.W. I am sure the Prof. is simply thrilled to have been included in one of your dissertations. Well, Pip pip and all that balderdash my good man. Written by ..............Spare the pretensious ones
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Hey Professor, I hear you on that. I was informed by a friend/colleague that a specific guest on a particular scientific issue was going to be interviewed on "Air America" yesterday, so I tuned in on-line and waited, and waited and waited while they bleated on about everything but the issue I was interested in. Fortunately, I was able to scan some images, work on some lecture notes, etc., etc., but not terribly efficiently, and I was getting really, really, sick of listening to this tripe, and it was lefty stuff! Finally I checked out the show's format and it turns out that this was a THREE HOUR LONG show. I said "to hell with that," turned it off and got some work done. Cripes, I may be a bit of a political junkie, but sometimes the true believers, even those from "my side" turn my stomach. Anyway, have a nice weekend. TW P.S. Ellipsis Man, I had decided not to respond to your latest posts, but now it seems a bit petty not to, since I'm already here responding to the Professor. Here it goes - I'm not sure how anglophobia relates to anti-Protestantism, nor am I convinced that I hate my (every Sunday) church-going Protestant parents, but that's neither here nor there. In any case, despite my love of la langue française, English is the language I speak best, and I love BBC News and many British sitcoms. I interviewed for a job in London post-K in 2006 (I didn't get it). Long story short, I don't think I'm anti-English, either. Tally ho! Written by Tee Dub
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Dang - this thread is the "Energizer Bunny" of threads! TW, I'll answer your question, even though I never read/heard any speeches by Hagee (in fact, I've never heard of the person). I think Jerry Falwell et.al. are loonies. In fact, I'll tell you exactly who I believe are loonies - right-wingers, left-wingers, zealots, cultists, and anyone who is close-minded enough to think that their view is the only one that can be correct. I keep trying to expand on this, but my expansions become rambling posts that never seem to come to a point, so I delete them. Suffice it to say that I agree that anyone who thinks in absolute terms (loves absolutely, hates absolutely, is indifferent absolutely) is absolutely insane in my book. ;) (BTW, I tried to listen to Sean Hannity on the radio yesterday - man, that guy is crazy! Just kept harping about the same thing for 30 minutes. Jeez, dude, move on to something else!) Written by Professor
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While looking at the modern day definition of 'bigot' I ran across an interesting word: Anglophobia.............................. Yah know t-duhhhhhhb, I think you perhaps have a HUGE dislike for Protestants..................... And what is a protestant? Well, you like to wear that cloak every now and then yourself, and bigotry is the kissing cousin of hypocrisy............ Or perhaps you are simply 'schadenfreude'. Written by ..................Whileing away the time
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Tee Dub to da rescue,,,,,T dub to da rescue, go t-dub go!!!!!!!!!! Tell me T-Dub, what is the difference between being black in America, and black in Uganda......? Oh, I know, the social system.................... duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Written by Sense of history............ indeed...............
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Nana, it is clear to me that you have no sense of history, nor do you have any sense of what it's like to be black in America. Nor did you answer my question about right-wing preachers. TW Written by Tee Dub
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I agree with you NANA, that perhaps "If we elect him president, then maybe, just maybe, we can stop talking about race." And I also believed Rodney King when he plead "Can't we just get along?".................... Of course we see where that experimental plea went.......... So why risk the presidency on the same stupid kind of philosophy? (Oh, I realise you were being a wry cynic in your last sentence. It made a lot of sense). Oh, I have a couple of 'black' friends, really I do............ (Does that give me the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval?)
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Just want to note that Ann Coulter is not one of my favorite people but she sure nailed this one.
THROW GRANDMA UNDER THE BUS
by Ann Coulter
March 19, 2008
Obama gave a nice speech, except for everything he said about race. He
apparently believes we're not talking enough about race. This is like
hearing Britney Spears say we're not talking enough about pop-tarts with
substance-abuse problems.
By now, the country has spent more time talking about race than John Kerry
has talked about Vietnam , John McCain has talked about being a POW, John
Edwards has talked about his dead son, and Al Franken has talked about his
USO tours.
But the "post-racial candidate" thinks we need to talk yet more about race.
How much more? I had had my fill by around 1974. How long must we all
marinate in the angry resentment of black people?
As an authentic post-racial American, I will not patronize blacks by
pretending Obama's pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is anything other than a
raving racist loon. If a white pastor had said what Rev. Wright said -- not
about black people, but literally, the exact same things -- I think we'd
notice that he's crazier than Ward Churchill and David Duke's love child.
(Indeed, both Churchill and the Rev. Wright referred to the attacks of 9/11
as the chickens coming "home to roost.")
Imagine a white pastor saying: "Racism is the American way. Racism is how
this country was founded, and how this country is still run. ... We believe
in white supremacy and black inferiority. And believe it more than we
believe in God."
Imagine a white pastor calling Condoleezza Rice, "Condoskeezza Rice."
Imagine a white pastor saying: "No, no, no, God damn America -- that's in
the Bible for killing innocent people! God damn America for treating our
citizens as less than human! God damn America for as long as she acts like
she is God and she is supreme!"
We treat blacks like children, constantly talking about their temper
tantrums right in front of them with airy phrases about black anger. I will
not pat blacks on the head and say, "Isn't that cute?" As a post-racial
American, I do not believe "the legacy of slavery" gives black people the
right to be permanently ill-mannered.
Obama tried to justify Wright's deranged rants by explaining that
"legalized discrimination" is the "reality in which Rev. Wright and other
African-Americans of his generation grew up." He said that a "lack of
economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that
came from not being able to provide for one's family, contributed to the
erosion of black families."
That may accurately describe the libretto of "Porgy and Bess," but it has
no connection to reality. By Rev. Wright's own account, he was 12 years old
and was attending an integrated school in Philadelphia when Brown v. Board
of Education was announced, ending "separate but equal" schooling.
Meanwhile, at least since the Supreme Court's decision in University of
California v. Bakke in 1978 -- and obviously long before that, or there
wouldn't have been a case or controversy for the court to consider -- it
has been legal for the government to discriminate against whites on the
basis of their race.
Consequently, any white person 30 years old or younger has lived, since the
day he was born, in an America where it is legal to discriminate against
white people. In many cases it's not just legal, but mandatory, for
example, in education, in hiring and in Academy Award nominations.
So for half of Rev. Wright's 66 years, discrimination against blacks was
legal -- though he never experienced it personally because it existed in a
part of the country where he did not live. For the second half of Wright's
life, discrimination against whites was legal throughout the land.
Discrimination has become so openly accepted that -- in a speech meant to
tamp down his association with a black racist -- Obama felt perfectly
comfortable throwing his white grandmother under the bus. He used her as
the white racist counterpart to his black racist "old uncle," Rev. Wright.
First of all, Wright is not Obama's uncle. The only reason we indulge crazy
uncles is that everyone understands that people don't choose their
relatives the way they choose, for example, their pastors and mentors. No
one quarrels with the idea that you can't be expected to publicly denounce
your blood relatives.
But Wright is not a relative of Obama's at all. Yet Obama cravenly compared
Wright's racist invective to his actual grandmother, who "once confessed
her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than
one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."
Rev. Wright accuses white people of inventing AIDS to kill black men, but
Obama's grandmother -- who raised him, cooked his food, tucked him in at
night, and paid for his clothes and books and private school -- has
expressed the same feelings about passing black men on the street that
Jesse Jackson has.
Unlike his "old uncle" -- who is not his uncle -- Obama had no excuses for
his grandmother. Obama's grandmother never felt the lash of discrimination!
Crazy grandma doesn't get the same pass as the crazy uncle; she's white.
Denounce the racist!
Fine. Can we move on now?
No, of course, not. It never ends. To be fair, Obama hinted that we might
have one way out: If we elect him president, then maybe, just maybe, we can
stop talking about race.
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The same? Word for word? Are you sure it is the same each time? Same same, person for person, stitch by stitch, inch by inch? Hmmmmmmmm.... sounds like paranoia mixed with your annoya ta me......... Who do you do we do voodoo.................................. Or is it merely a pshycosis nuerosis you are afflicted with betwixt the intake of the medicatitions.....? Hmmmmm.... Perhaps you are a prime candidate for telemedicine..... Is this screen telle enough fer ya? Written by Vividee Vavadee Voooooooooo
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This from the guy who posted the same lyrics twice on the same thread. Ironic? or just plain idiotic? I report; you decide. TW Written by Tee Dub
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I say, the definition of instanity is to do something the exact same way time and time again, and each time expect a different result from the actions. You are. Written by different enough fer ya?
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I think it best to denounce all hate speech, whether from the right or the left. Although I hate to repeat myself, the only way to stop wrongdoing - including "hate speech" - is for those who do it to be ostracized and criticized by members of their own party. As an example, it took white people to end the slavery of blacks in this country. Likewise each political party should shun those who speak hatefully of others, nothing will ever change by having one side criticize members of the other..... nothing....ever.....just people raising their blood pressure without accomplishing jack $#it. So as much as it pains you to do so, if we want harmony and respect, we must criticize our own, not JUST the opposition. If you actually want things to change, that is. Written by kpf
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Dude, I may be arrogant, pompous, and how did you put it? A "putz"? But in the words of a song you apparently know, "At least I'm not insane." TW Written by Tee Dub
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Oh we get by with a little help from our friends, Mmmmmmm I'm going to try with a little help from my friends.... Written by So we need anybody?
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Oh you didn’t end the thread……. It is not dead just because you said…… no you didn’t end the thread,,,,, but you want the last word to be heard and heard, smack talk, punk rock, slap them down, push them round, call for defense, no repents, call them out, make them shout, no you didn’t end the thread, it is not dead just because you said……. No you didn’t end the thread,,,,, It is going on even though you hate the song and it goes on and on and on and on….. Written by Ho Chi Mihn what a sin.....
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Ahhh yes Little duhhhhb.... And we have you, on the buzzy board, the ever alert watchdog, making sure that you are some kind of moral beating stick that is their to whittle down measuring sticks. What a pleasure it has been to have never made your acquaintance.... You are quite the abrasive little Gestapo type personality, now aren’t you…… I guess you are a strong advocate of ‘Telemedicine’, you sure do monitor these buzzy boards for any signs of ‘foul play’ as you define it. Wut a putz………… Written by fo sco an many yars ago..................
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Dear Nana, when right-wing folks were lining up with the late Jerry Falwell, who blamed 9/11 on gays, lesbians, and feminists, were you upset then? Are you upset with right-wing windbags who align themselves with Pat Robertson? Are you alarmed at John McCain's seeking the endorsement of John Hagee, who has called the Roman Catholic Church "the great whore" and a "false cult system" and "the apostate church"? No? That's okay with you? The amount of hate that spews out from the right-wing noise machine is enormous - folks like Rev. Wright pale in comparison! TW Written by Tee Dub
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Just to add to what Professor posted How could Obama allow his 2 children to hear those hate filled sermons? You can't tell me he did not agree with the hate spewed by Wright. Otherwise he would have not allowed his children to be there week after week. Written by nana
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I like Billy Joel as an artist (I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the Saints myself), but I have always, always, always HATED that song. Loathed it, actually. Despised it, really. And why, pray tell, did you decide to reprint the lyrics AGAIN? Did you think we missed them the first time you posted them? Actually, I take back the "pray tell" bit. I'd rather not read your response, which I am certain will be full of ellipses, bad puns, odd innuendos and other cryptic nonsense. Stephen, aren't you supposed to be blocking this guy? You're asleep at the wheel! TW Written by Tee Dub
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"A Republican presidential candidate getting an endorsement from a bigoted white Christian evangelist?!" (OH MY!) "A Democratic presidential candidate getting an endorsement from a bigoted black national leader!?" (OH MY!) WOW! This is like.... uh.... like something one hears every - I mean ev-er-ree single time we have a presidential election. Yawn............ we'll keep putting the same two parties in power – allowing each to be the other’s foil; a.k.a. “our salvation” - then be disappointed when "change" doesn't take place. See the truth is, "change" does take place - in the minds and hearts of the electorate, the politicians simply modify their views to continue telling the public what they expect to hear from their "leaders" - except.... isn’t that called "following".... not "leading"? Actually, I thought Obama's speech made some excellent points. Of course, he may simply be "telling me what I want to hear." I find it most difficult to believe in any of them or to believe anything they say. That’s pragmatism, not cynicism, based upon the example set by our politicians’ terms in office whilst “serving the public good.” Written by kpf
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No oh pompous one, this thread is not dead because you think it is, instead, concerning this thread.....Because we didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning,,,, we didn't start the fire..No we didn't light it but we tried to fight it.....Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, Television North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe Rosenbergs, H Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom Brando, The King And I, and The Catcher In The Rye Eisenhower, Vaccine, England's got a new queen Maciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it Joseph Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, Dancron Dien Bien Phu Falls, Rock Around the Clock Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's got a winning team Davy Crockett, Peter Pan, Elvis Presley, Disneyland Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Khrushchev Princess Grace, Peyton Place, Trouble in the Suez We didn't start the fire It was always burning Since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac Sputnik, Chou En-Lai, Bridge On The River Kwai Lebanon, Charles de Gaulle, California baseball Starkwether, Homicide, Children of Thalidomide Buddy Holly, Ben Hur, Space Monkey, Mafia Hula Hoops, Castro, Edsel is a no-go U2, Syngman Rhee, payola and Kennedy Chubby Checker, Psycho, Belgians in the Congo We didn't start the fire………. It was always burning Since the world's been turning………. We didn't start the fire……… No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it……. Hemingway, Eichman, Stranger in a Strange Land Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs invasion Lawrence of Arabia, British Beatlemania Ole Miss, John Glenn, Liston beats Patterson Pope Paul, Malcolm X, British Politician sex J.F.K. blown away, what else do I have to say……. We didn't start the fire…… It was always burning Since the world's been turning……… We didn't start the fire No we didn't light it….. But we tried to fight it……. Birth control, Ho Chi Minh, Richard Nixon back again Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, punk rock Begin, Reagan, Palestine, Terror on the airline Ayatollah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan Wheel of Fortune, Sally Ride, heavy metal, suicide Foreign debts, homeless Vets, AIDS, Crack, Bernie Goetz Hypodermics on the shores, China's under martial law Rock and Roller cola wars, I can't take it anymore We didn't start the fire……. It was always burning…… Since the world's been turning…. We didn't start the fire…..No we didn't light it But we tried to fight it…….. And it goes on and on and on and on…………………… So what kind of change is Obama and the mama talkin about?
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***Probably this thread is dead, but let me post this anyway - it's cathartic!*** So let's get this straight - Barrack Obama associates with Rev. Wright, and that's bad, but John McCain courting the support of that nutjob televangelist John Hagee is okay? Here's Steve Benen, who says it much better than I ever could: "The New York Times' Deborah Solomon chatted with notorious televangelist John Hagee this week for an interview that ran in today's NYT Sunday magazine. Hagee, of course, is best known as a bigoted mega-church leader in Texas, whom John McCain embraced and campaigned with.
This exchange from the interview stood out for me.
Solomon: As a prominent evangelical pastor based in San Antonio, you were recently catapulted into national controversy when you endorsed Senator John McCain for president. Is it true that McCain actively sought your endorsement?
Hagee: It's true that McCain's campaign sought my endorsement.
Now, there's some news value, I suppose, in Hagee's acknowledgement, but that's not the part that irks me.
Instead, it was the question. Solomon prefaced her question by noting that Hagee was 'catapulted into national controversy.' I'm not necessarily blaming Solomon, but I don't think that's even remotely true. I wish Hagee had been 'catapulted into national controversy,' but thanks to political reporters, including those at Solomon's own paper, that didn't happen.
Using Nexis and Google News, I went ahead and did another search this morning. How many of the nation's largest daily newspapers ran stand-alone articles about McCain's outreach to a bigoted and nutty televangelist?
Here's the list:
Washington Post — Zero
New York Times — Zero
Los Angeles Times — Zero
Boston Globe — Zero
Chicago Tribune — Zero
USA Today — Zero
Wall Street Journal — Zero
Now, to be fair, in a couple of instances, some of these papers made brief reference to the flap in editorials or columns. More recently, a couple of the dailies ran huge stories about Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright, and made brief reference therein to 'questions' about McCain's Hagee association.
But despite condemnations from the Speaker of the House, the chairman of the DNC, Catholic groups on the left, Catholic groups on the right, and Jewish groups, none of the major dailies ran a single article about the Republican presidential nominee cozying up to a bigoted megachurch preacher or the outrage it caused in some circles.
As such, Hagee wasn't 'catapulted into national controversy.' He should have been, but political reporters collectively decided to give him a pass, for reasons that are still unclear." ***That's your "liberal press" for you. What a lark. TW Written by Tee Dub
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The one thing I cannot tolerate is intolerance! I see no entity more intolerant than Islam in this world and base my opinions on them accordingly. Nevertheless I am sure we've had presidents who were racist and also presidents who had nothing but contempt for "average" Americans. I do have faith in the people of this country to weather any administration (although I have little good to say about our judgment concerning who we elect to public office). Also I think it extremely important to realize that this country has a “slinky-effect” concerning the political direction this country moves. The only time we shift leftward is post-conservative administration (and vice-versa). So, if you want to see this country move towards more conservative values, the best chance of that is the “backlash” that a far left presidential administration will provide. At least, that is how I would describe what I have observed over the years. Also, there is a synthesis effect at work here, although many of the Judea-Christian beliefs will be slowly weeded out, some will remain forever; like a pendulum our nation’s values change over time. This country (the entire world in fact) is “testing its boundaries” and will (slowly) move towards a more tolerant and free existence for us all. Racism, wars etc. are just our growing pains. Black racism will one day disappear as will its white counterpart; an Obama presidency may just be what we need (I still think it "a good move" for McCain to select Condi as his running mate though). Written by kpf
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Kerry - I don't disagree with what you said, but with what you implied. I do not hold him responsible for what his preacher said. If Obama went to church 52 times a year, for 20 years, and his pastor spews this garbage, then I would have no real problem. I woouldn't be cheering, but I wouldn't be too upset. However, he knew that this man said that America caused 9/11. He knew that this man granted Louis Farakhan a lifetime achievement award. He knew that this man visited a known sponsor of terrorism in Libya, by the name of Khadafi. He knew all of these things, and then he appointed him as an advisor. The only conclusion that I can reach from that is that he said, "Given all that I know about this man, I believe that his ideals, convictions and morals closely mirror my own. I value his input, and will defer to him on subjects which I am not knowledgeable." I'm not very comfortable knowing that this is the man who could be advising our President. Written by Professor
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What one's preacher says and what one believes are two different things. I do not fault anyone for what their preacher spews from the pulpit. Also, distrust and anger towards whites by blacks is understandable; the preacher is simply saying things many of his congregation already believes. Not that this anger is the "road to salvation" for black Americans - it most certainly is not, but that's another story. That any Democratic candidate thinks the U.S. is evil while ignoring similar or worse behavior elsewhere in the world, is nothing more than "being a Democrat" - not that unusual at all. Here's the taxpayer's plight... the Democrats consider the middle class to be part of "the Establishment" who "need to pay their fair share" to "right the wrongs of the past"; the Republicans are too busy with their rich buddies to give a $#it about the average working Joe, other than to fool him into thinking they are protecting his interests while increasing his taxes. Even the Reagan tax cuts were not really cuts when one looks at the increase in Social Security withholding and removal of credit interest as a tax deduction - we paid more, not less; Federal revenue INCREASED <gosh, that's fairly significant, no?>, the "Reagan deficits" were actually increases in government spending, despite the much believed "Reagan tax cuts caused the deficit" B.S. Written by kpf
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It appears you are correct about the website, TW. Anyone could post anything, and that endorsement has been removed. However, that still does not answer my questions about his judgement of character (if he can't tell that Rev. Wright was like this after 20 years, how can I expect him to make rational appointments to office?), refusal to disown the preacher (again, the Rev. isn't family and he isn't a community - he was hired to give spiritual advice, just as a lawyer is hired for legal advice and a doctor is hired for medical advice, and he can be fired just as those two examples can be fired) and his seemingly hypocritical positions in his speech (self-reliance and not relying upon the government for help, all while his positions on issues encourage more government reliance than ever). Written by Professor
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Ahhhhhh yes, but it would seem that events are forged by people who 'read'. Anyone notice the price of gold slipped this week? Why? Well............... Written by The Shadow Knows
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Get a clue, "Professor" - do you not understand that anyone ould set up a page on "MyBarrackObama.com"? You could do it right now - I could do it right now - John Kerry could do it right now - Dick Cheney could do it right now. It's open to anyone by design! I was up-front about my source because I thought it was obvious that he (Obama) can't police every one of those 700,000 pages immediately - he has to rely on other people - just like here - sometimes Steven has to be notified when someone crosses the line - and even here it takes awhile to get rid of the posts in question, and this site doesn't have 700,000 bloggers! Surely you're internet savvy enough to realize that, right?... even if you're not the sharpest peanut in the turd? TW Written by Tee Dub
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Uhhh - TW, are you serious? My information comes from Fox News, initially and then other agencies to confirm. Yet, you are using the words of "mybarackobama.com" to refute me? You are too easy to defeat. I think that I shall search elsewhere for a challenging opponent to debate. Have fun defending your Black Supremacist to others. Written by Professor
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Now I know the source of the "Professor's" cryptic "Black Panther" remark (the following is from mybarackobama.com): "So Fox News evidently decided to pore through our millions of user-created pages on My.BarackObama.com and put a screenshot of inflammatory content on the front page of FoxNews.com. You see, more than 700,000 people have created accounts on the system. You can create one right now if you choose, in about a minute — anyone can. Now, from time to time people get up to no good — creating fake profiles (like one for Sean Hannity created today), or posting profane or inappropriate content. When they do, the community reports the offending content and if it violates our terms of service it is removed (as the Sean Hannity profile was). My.BarackObama.com has been at the core of our bottom-up organizing strategy. The tools available have been put to work by a community of supporters that is bigger and more powerful than anything presidential politics has ever seen. Evidently, Fox News didn’t think it was a big deal that hundreds of thousands of ordinary Americans are participating in the democratic process creating groups and local events in communities all across the country. But they did think it was a big deal that one random person on the Internet, without the knowledge of the Obama campaign, posted a profile in the system with the image of the New Black Panther Party on it. When we were alerted of the existence of this page, we pulled it down. Yet even after we pulled the page, Fox News continues to disingenuously and prominently feature this 'story' on their homepage." Good spotting, there, "Professor" - glad to see you get your "news" from a reliable source. TW Written by Tee Dub
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Did you know that there is approximately 1 ton of gold per cubic mile of seawater? Written by .....Price is relevant to watt?
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I realize that MLK was assinated in '68 - I also realize that if we never left the gold standard there wouldn't be inflation such as we have. Written by kpf
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How many black Americans today come from ancestors who defeated and enslaved other black Africans only to be captured and then become enslaved themselves? In any case we all can choose: see each other as we really are with every single one of us having the same good and bad points or instead, see each other as "different" - members of some "less worthy" group. It is the very same evil (yes, "evil") whether it is some white person speaking ill of "black people" or some guilt-ridden "oh see what a wonderful person I am" white liberal speaking ill of "white people" or some black person speaking ill of "white people" - racial discord will always exist until WE STOP seeing each other as anything other than individuals, not as a member of some group. Written by kpf
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Now when it comes time for helping out my fellow man………………….. whatever the circumstances may be………………. Written by I am all for it if it is the right thing to do....
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“The document they produced was eventually signed but ultimately unfinished. It was stained by THIS NATION’S ORIGINAL SIN OF SLAVERY, a question that divided the colonies and brought the convention to a stalemate until the founders chose to allow the slave trade to continue for at least twenty more years, and to leave any final resolution to future generations.”…………….. Hmmmmmmmmmm,,,, This nations original sin of slavery…….. How interesting of Obama to allude to that interesting time in history, for the most part, the ‘slaves’ that made it to our shores alive originated as slaves that were put into bondage by their own ‘brothers’ and ‘sisters’ in their native Africa. Yes, they sold their brothers and sisters to someone else…. Why? Ehhh, land, money, power, it still goes on and on and on over there. At the time, I suppose the captive was happier with slavery than freedom, and it chose or was given happiness in lieu of death. "It costs a lot of money to feed unnecessary populations...." I suppose that was their mindset at the onslaught of selling their brothers and sisters..... Slaves? Slaves to what? My how people relish trying to reshape history and take everything out of context. We have no race problems here in America, only people that have problems with the race………… Whatever form or substance it may be presented in…… Written by The truth often isn't pretty... Just a reminder
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Like anyone out there is really a big MLK fan anyways........................ Written by Just another foot note in history gone awry
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Geebus, (apologies to Homer Simpson) I can't believe I'm having to explain this. The figures in the MLK speech are in 1967 dollars. TW Written by Tee Dub
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Written by ...........Because we didn't start the fire
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Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, Television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe
Rosenbergs, H Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, The King And I, and The Catcher In The Rye
Eisenhower, Vaccine, England's got a new queen
Maciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Joseph Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev
Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc
Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, Dancron
Dien Bien Phu Falls, Rock Around the Clock
Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's got a winning team
Davy Crockett, Peter Pan, Elvis Presley, Disneyland
Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Khrushchev
Princess Grace, Peyton Place, Trouble in the Suez
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac
Sputnik, Chou En-Lai, Bridge On The River Kwai
Lebanon, Charles de Gaulle, California baseball
Starkwether, Homicide, Children of Thalidomide
Buddy Holly, Ben Hur, Space Monkey, Mafia
Hula Hoops, Castro, Edsel is a no-go
U2, Syngman Rhee, payola and Kennedy
Chubby Checker, Psycho, Belgians in the Congo
We didn't start the fire……….
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning……….
We didn't start the fire………
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it…….
Hemingway, Eichman, Stranger in a Strange Land
Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs invasion
Lawrence of Arabia, British Beatlemania
Ole Miss, John Glenn, Liston beats Patterson
Pope Paul, Malcolm X, British Politician sex
J.F.K. blown away, what else do I have to say…….
We didn't start the fire……
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning………
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it…..
But we tried to fight it…….
Birth control, Ho Chi Minh, Richard Nixon back again
Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, punk rock
Begin, Reagan, Palestine, Terror on the airline
Ayatollah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan
Wheel of Fortune, Sally Ride, heavy metal, suicide
Foreign debts, homeless Vets, AIDS, Crack, Bernie Goetz
Hypodermics on the shores, China's under martial law
Rock and Roller cola wars, I can't take it anymore
We didn't start the fire…….
It was always burning……
Since the world's been turning….
We didn't start the fire…..No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it…….. And it goes on and on and on and on…………………… So what kind of change is Obama and the mama talkin about?
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And Lincoln was assassinated in '65..................... So what is/was the relevance of MLK, or even the correlation of such where your ‘insiteful’ posting can be considered?????????? Written by la dee daddeeee dah............
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And that comes out to .18 cents per day, so what is your point?????? Perhaps Poor Richard would say "A penny saved is a penny earned"..... Now enlighten us on how we are going to pay for a multi trillion dollar deficit, oh one out of 300 million or so. Written by A stitch in time saves? Uh,, puppies...........??
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Kerry, you do realize that MLK was assassinated in 1968, right? TW Written by Tee Dub
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20 billion divided by 300 million is $66.66. What can be done with 20 billion dollars - a guaranteed income!? Where? An annual income of sixty-six dollars? I guess I'm missing something here. How much money someone makes is not an unjust worth of who they are, there is a reason people - such as yourself - with degrees get paid more than high school dropouts do; there is a reason a surgeon gets paid more than a trash collector. The reason is "the comparative worth of their work" and "how difficult this work is to master" - money is no more evil than the male sex organ (which although it is the "tool of rape" does not condemn it or those who have one) money, "pee-pees" or guns are not inherently evil. What people do with and for them can be. Written by kpf
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Uhhhhhhhh,,,, T Dubbbbbbb............ Idi 'Dada' Amin loved pontificating fools such as those portrayed in your dissertion..... Written by Probably to your aggrevation.....
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Well Professor, that was quite the dissertation..... Are you saying that it is possible to turn around the trend that is causing young, productive white males to become an endangered species because others are deemed more 'needful' of public attention and funds 24/7 - 365 days a year??????? Oddly enough, did you know that the former leader of the Black Panthers is a home grown Louisiana product? My how we do luv to export our idealisms out into the world........ Written by This is an underlying issue. Love ya 2 Huey Newton
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You are certainly no academic, or you would never make such a specious and erroneous argument. You cannot evaluate the messenger - only the argument itself - to do otherwise is to make an ad hominem argument. But I think the greater crime here is for you to pretend to have assumed the mantle of Martin Luther King, Jr. You no more speak for Martin Luther King, Jr. than you would presume to speak for Kathleen Babineaux Blanco. Here's MLK on social justice: "True compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar; it is not haphazard and superficial. It comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring. A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. With righteous indignation, it will look across the seas and see individual capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries, and say: 'This is not just.' It will look at our alliance with the landed gentry of Latin America and say: 'This is not just.' The Western arrogance of feeling that it has everything to teach others and nothing to learn from them is not just. A true revolution of values will lay hands on the world order and say of war: 'This way of settling differences is not just.' This business of burning human beings with napalm, of filling our nation's homes with orphans and widows, of injecting poisonous drugs of hate into veins of people normally humane, of sending men home from dark and bloody battlefields physically handicapped and psychologically deranged, cannot be reconciled with wisdom, justice and love. A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death." And here's another impassioned MLK quote: "New forms of work that enhance the social good will have to be devised for those for whom traditional jobs are not available... Work of this sort could be enormously increased, and we are likely to find that the problem of housing, education, instead of preceding the elimination of poverty, will themselves be affected if poverty is first abolished. The poor, transformed into purchasers, will do a great deal on their own to alter housing decay. Negroes, who have a double disability, will have a greater effect on discrimination when they have the additional weapon of cash to use in their struggle. Beyond these advantages, a host of positive psychological changes inevitably will result from widespread economic security. The dignity of the individual will flourish when the decisions concerning his life are in his own hands, when he has the assurance that his income is stable and certain, and when he knows that he has the means to seek self-improvement. Personal conflicts between husband, wife, and children will diminish when the unjust measurement of human worth on a scale of dollars is eliminated. Now, our country can do this. John Kenneth Galbraith said that a guaranteed annual income could be done for about twenty billion dollars a year. And I say to you today, that if our nation can spend thirty-five billion dollars a year to fight an unjust, evil war in Vietnam, and twenty billion dollars to put a man on the moon, it can spend billions of dollars to put God's children on their own two feet right here on earth..." Sounds reasonable to me. What do you think, "Professor"? TW Written by Tee Dub
on 3/20/2008
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AND, NOW WE LEARN THAT THE "NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY" IS LISTED AS A SUPPORTER ON OBAMA'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE?!! I'm sorry, but 1 action can be discounted as a mistake (though a pretty large one). But, 2 actions form a pattern. And, yes, this does touch a nerve with me. I am married to a minority (a full-blooded one, at that!), and am part minority myself. Yet, neither of us has ever asked for a single concession because of those things. This country was built upon a premise that "all men are created equal". I have made the point in the past that, while they are created equal, some make more of themselves than others. However, you are born (aka: "created") with a certain skin color. To say that one group should be given additional help because of that color implies that one color is INFERIOR to another color, and that they need the extra help to be on a level playing field. In other words, that practice restates the above-mentioned premise and makes it, "All men are created equal, except for some of color, who we will have to help to make equal." That is NOT the America that I live in; that is not the America that I want to live in; and that is NOT the America that I will tolerate. Can we change this? YES WE CAN!! Written by Professo