Palin says she’s released her medical records “proving” she actually gave birth to her fifth child, Trig.
But is it true?
No.It’s not.
Palin never released her medical records, despite written demands by more than 2,700 physicians that she do so. The two-page letter Palin did release (instead of medical records) just hours before the actual election, is written by an Alaskan doctor who, no longer treating Palin, carefully defines herself as the “Palin family physician.” In it, we learn the unsurprising news that Trig “was born” and was “able to go home at two days of age with his mother.”
But just who might “mother” be?
Is Trig’s biological mother Governor Palin, or, as Palin says herself, “one of her daughters?” She says she is the mom.Bristol Palin, aged 17, unmarried, and also pregnant, is usually named.
Yet, the speculation continues by bloggers and traditional news organiations.Why does Palin not simply release her medical records and end the speculation?Palin can hide behind her privacy rights (a rather ironic position, since the U.S. Supreme Court based its Roe v. Wade abortion ruling on privacy rights), but serious politicians contending for the vice presidency are held to a high standard of public disclosure about their medical conditions.Palin, as a woman who chose to run, should get no special pass.Nor should Palin’s public waiver of her juvenile daughter, Bristol’s, privacy rights get her off the hook.
Palin officially announced, at the Republican National Convention, no less, that Bristolwas currently pregnant to dispel rumors that she, rather than Governor Palin, had given birth to Trig.As people started to do the math, questions arose about whether Bristol could have two pregnancies in such close succession.
The answer is, yes.And the odds of this for a fertile, sexually active 17-year-old girl are greater than they are for a 44-year-old woman becoming naturally pregnant even once and bringing the fetus to term.
Palin blames “the media” for persistant questions about who is Trig’s biological mother:“[T]hings…could have, should have been so easily corrected if—if the media would have taken one step further and—and investigated a little bit.”Of course, since she arrived on the national scene, Palin’s not lost a minute to blame “the media” for her woes—a practice so common among pols resentful of scrutiny that, for reporters, it “almost has a homey feel to it,” wrote the New York Times.
Anytime Palin chooses to release her records, “the media” will happily examine them and “correct” the rumors haunting Palin.Until she does, though, no amount of extra “investigation” is as reliable, or worth the time.Has Palin ever waived her right to physician-patient confidentiality?No.She only “authorized” the “Palin family physician” to write a letter.
Such a letter is not a medical record.Rather, it is a letter about medical records.Why is the difference important?
Medical records tell with great certainty who gave birth to whom, and what the circumstances were.Medical records clearly identify attending physicians.Doctors get into grave legal trouble for forging or altering them, so most are reluctant to take such steps.
What keeps Palinologists’ eyebrows raised is that, from the moment Palin publicly announced her pregnancy at seven months, few people believed her.
Startled reporters and incredulous aids greeted Palin’s news with stunned silence.“You’re kidding,” said one incredulous reporter, staring at Palin’s flat abdomen.Most of the people attending Palin’s baby shower shortly after Trig’s birth—including her own friends and relatives-- had no idea that Palin had even been pregnant.“Unbelievable!” the Anchorage Daily News reported on the buzz from Palin’s friends and associates.
Alaskan television and radio reporters called Palin’s pregnancy news “a bombshell” because it was so completely unexpected.
These and other perplexed witnesses aren’t the “pajama-clad bloggers living in their parents’ basements” Palin so derides.Many are women familiar with pregnancy.One, Mary Nelson, who exclaimed “Really?No!” when she heard Palin’s pregnancy news, is a respected Alaskan state representative who was then pregnant herself.Another Alaskan politico, Senate President Lyda Green, remarked, “She’s very well-disguised.When I was with five months pregnant, there was absolutely no question that I was with child.”Still another is Hawaiian Governor Linda Lingle, who was with Palin at the Republican Governors Association Energy Conference where Palin insisted upon staying and delivering a luncheon keynote address even after she started feeling unusual pains, and then her water broke (or “leaked,” as Palin puts it)—a situation that can endanger a child in utero. “Nobody knew a thing,” Lingle remarked.
Even the flight crew of the Alaskan Airlines jet had no idea that Palin was pregnant and supposedly about to deliver a child.Had they known, they likely would not have allowed Palin to board the plane.“The stage of her pregnancy was not apparent by observation,” Caroline Boren, the airline’s spokeswomen, baldly stated.
Israeli filmmaker Frank Elan spent several hours with Palin when she traveled from Alaska to Los Angeles in March, 2007, supposedly in her seventh month.“I met her in my Hollywood office,” he recalled, “and we talked for over an hour” about making a documentary.Elan readily decided to film her.“The funny thing is,” Elan recalls, “that a few days later I got an email from a friend in Alaska telling me she [Palin] was seven months pregnant.I didn’t notice a thing until later, when we were filming.”
But Elan’s video raises more questions than it answers.In footage shot about 10 days before Trig’s birth (and later sold to FOX, which repackaged it as “Sarah Palin: An American Woman”), Palin does not appear pregnant, although she does mention, in a squeaky voice, that she is having “a boy,” and later stretches back for a microsecond to reveal a tiny tummy bump that looks nothing like a seven months’ gestating baby.Most of Elan’s footage used by FOX shows Palin only from the neck up, and is often angled so that Palin’s torso is seldom seen.
Alaskans were incredulous.“She simply doesn’t look pregnant,” insisted the Anchorage Daily News.The ADN reported that Palin’s pregnancy claim “astonished reporters and others in the Capitol, who had no clue the governor was expecting.”Yet, frame after frame of Elan’s video shows Palin still wearing her “camouflage” outfit of a long, floppy multi-colored scarf.Why bother hiding her belly, if everyone already knew?
Could it be because Palin still, at almost 8 months, did not physically appear to be carrying a baby?And might that mean that Palin was not, in fact, pregnant?
Is Palin lying?
Newsweek reporter Karen Breslau, who’s met Palin several times and also interviewed her—in Palin’s seventh month--in Los Angeles at the “Women And Leadership Event” Newsweek sponsored, similarly remarked that Palin did not then appear to be at all pregnant.Breslau only learned of Palin’s pregnancy because “[a]n aide [of Palin’s] called me the next day to tell me that Palin would be announcing her pregnancy at home in Alaska and that she [Palin] had wanted me to know as a courtesy.She was sorry she hadn’t mentioned it the night before.”In fact, Palin sat for a lengthy interview in front of Breslau and was filmed wearing black panty hose and sexy, shiny black leather boots—accessories not impossible to wear late in pregnancy, but not usually worn by then due to swelling.In response to Breslau’s questions, Palin insisted that her children had not impeded her political life.She complained that “some Neanderthals” questioned her ability to be governor and also mother toddler Piper.Why not then mention being pregnant at this forum?
Two KTLA reporters similarly failed to observe that the woman sitting before them—already shortlisted for the GOP vice presidential ticket--was in an advanced stage of pregnancy.Pregnancy would certainly be as newsworthy as what the reporters did question Palin about--her admitted use of marijuana.Palin laughed, replied that marijuana was a legal drug in Alaska at the time, and said she’d admitted it earlier because she was “tryin’ to be honest about things.”
Either way, two questions arise.
If Palin hid her pregnancy but still insisted that she should not be treated any differently, then why did she hide it?And if Palin was only pretending to be pregnant, then why would she do that?
The first question, coupled with Palin’s initial secrecy, stated penchant for vigorous exercise, heavy interstate travel, and ignoring of labor pains and leaking amniotic fluid, indicates a disregard for her fetus that could have produced a miscarriage, stillbirth, or some other fetal harm.Why risk her unborn child’s life to, as Palin put it, “deliver a speech” or blow off job tension “even as an old pregnant lady” by aerobics and weight-lifing?What speech or job could possibly be more important than a child’s life, for a pro-life candidate?
Palin’s additional claim that her husband wanted the baby born in Alaska rather than Texasis even more absurd.Why risk an infant’s life, the health of the mother, and the security of a commercial aircraft and its passengers and crew to bring one more “native-born” Alaskan in the world?And even if Palin was simply so hapless, one must ask: Do conservative voters really want such an ignorant, self-serving person in the vice presidency or presidency?
The second question brings Palin’s mental health into focus: Is Palin sane enough for higher office?Does Palin have some psychological condition whereby she pretended to be pregnant?There is an infant, so we know someone was pregnant.But the circumstances of Trig’s birth raise the issue of whether Palin actually gave physical birth, or someone else—Palin’s juvenile, unwed daughter, Bristol—did.And these questions aren’t limited to pajama-clad bloggers.Newsweek raised them,with photographs of Bristol, after Palin became the Republican candidate.The Daily Kos merely commented on the rumors that had swirled around Alaska for months earlier.Did Palin, then only a governor, hope to shield her unwed, underage daughter from criticism?Or did she hope to protect her own reputation as a mother who could, impossibly, “do it all?”
The second question raises serious doubts as to Palin’s honesty and judgment.
This is why Palin’s medical records are important.Apart from DNA tests, Palin’s medical records are, in fact, the only confirmation that she is telling the truth.
Why do we care?
We care because Republican leaders keep telling us that Palin will likely lead the 2012 ticket.We care because Palin disrupted the pre-planned agenda of the Republican National Conventionover issues of her and Bristol’s pregnancies—issues that could easily have been worked out in advance, had the Palins not been so secretive.We care because elections are expensive, and Palin cost candidate Senator John McCain and the GOP huge losses with the female swing vote—a fact that Palin denies. We care because we know the GOP’s “base” is not a unified block of conservatives, but a hodge-podge of inconsistent true believers —some value anti-abortion stances, so Palin may gain their support, but these same conservatives may also take a dim view of illegitimacy, teenage marriage, under-education and unemployment, all of which are raised by the Palins’ family choices.
We care because somewhere, there is a medical record that will show whether Palin is Trig’s biological mother.Who could gain access to that record?A surprising number of people—acting illegally, of course, unless Palin consents.How will Palin respond?Might there be some other accessible private record, such as a birth certificate, a medical insurance form, or perhaps the fact that no such form was used or benefit applied for, that would indicate who gave birth to whom?
Somebody besides Palin knows the truth.And that is the biggest reason for Palin to release her medical records immediately.If the truth is as Palin declares, then things are fine.But if the truth is different, then Palin’s problem will become the Party’s problem and from there, perhaps, America’s problem.
So, if Palin loves her party, and there’s no truth to the rumors, why not just release her medical records right now?
Palin’s own words indicate that she’s confused about what she’s done.She’s not even sure whether she “hid” her pregnancy or not.In Elan’s video, Palin contradicts herself in mid-sentence, almost uninterruptedly, saying: “In fact, I didn’t tell anybody I was pregnant until last month, and I hid it until last month, and then, didn’t, didn’t even purposely really try to hide it, just, uhm, my abs were tight and I could hide it until this month, and there was no way….”
Elsewhere, Palin conversely states, unequivocally, that she “never” hid her conditionor was concerned that pregnancy would cause her to be taken less seriously professionally.According to the Anchorage Daily News: “As for her recent news that she is pregnant with her fifth child, Palin says it never played a part in any thoughts she has entertained about a hypothetical vice presidential bid.‘I'm very confident that a pregnant woman should not and doesn't have to be prohibited from doing anything, including running for vice president,’ Palin said. ‘Or working in the home or out of the home. The world is our oyster also, whether carrying a baby or not.’
Will the real Sarah Palin please stand up?
Palin’s fifth pregnancy was so strange a tale, it’s hard to swallow.Her own father, Chuck Heath, chatting with reporters shortly after Trig’s birth, remarked of his daughter’s arduous journey from Texas to give birth in Alaska: “ She traveled, well, well, she was at that convention, traveled all night, gave birth this morning, what have you….”
“What have you” indeed.What exactly do Republicans have in Governor Palin?
She signed Trig’s birth announcements as “Trig’s Creator, Your Heavenly Father,” and wrote the text in the “voice” ofGod.Can’t get more maverick than that!
This week, Palin addressed the issue of her candor, mocking “some of the goofy things” asked during the campaign, “like who was Trig’s mom.And well [Palin raises her hand], I’m Trig’s mom.And do you wanna see my medical records to prove that?And days would go by before the mainstream media would even try and correct that, that, yeah, OK, it’s proven that she factually is Trig’s mom.”
Is it?
Palin’s entered a significant realm of dissembling.Palin hasn’t released her medical records, and that’s a very interesting mistatement for someone who wants to be president in 2012.Whose hard-earned Republican political career will next go down in flames next by riding roughshod with Alaska’s maverick governor?Arkansas Former Governor Mike Huckabee’s? Florida Governor Charlie Crist’s?Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal’s?Massachusetts Former Governor Mitt Romney’s? Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour’s?South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford’s?
“And do you wanna see my medical records to prove that I’m Trig’s mom?”Palin jeers.
Governor Palin, as a matter of fact, we do.Send them in soon.
by Sarah Whalen, a free-lance writer and contributor to Bayoubuzz.
Where was Bristol during the "debated" pregnancy?
Wasn't she in school?
Did SHE look pregnant?
No one has said anything about her tummy.
Isn't it more likely that a 44 year old would give birth to a Down's baby?
I'm still not sure about all of this.
There needs to be a LOT more investigation.
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Hello, kpf,
The key idea is this: NO SECRECY! The next idea is: STABILITY IN GOVERNMENT!
Medical records help voters determine whether the candidates—and later, the elected president and vice president--can complete their terms of office, and also function within that office for the time elected, without physical or mental impairment.
If the president and/or vice president has a severe medical or psychiatric condition that would require them to get a lot of care, take drugs or meds that might impair their judgment, undergo medical regimes that might impair their judgment, exhaust them, etc., or for any reason leave them functioning at less than their optimum level...then the nation has a problem.
Then, the question becomes: "Who is running the show, really?"
In a democracy, this question is quite important.
The classic case is President Woodrow Wilson, who suffered a very debilitating stroke in 1919. He was left paralyzed on one side of his body, and blind in one eye. He became extremely dependent upon his second wife for…well, for virtually everything, including running the nation. But nobody—not even his closest advisors--knew how completely ill he was. The truth was also kept from the American public. Wilson’s wife actually ran the country until the end of Wilson’s term—SECRETLY. So the question arises in a democracy: "Who is running the country? Is it the elected person? Or is it someone unelected?"
Should Americans be bound by the decisions of unelected “presidents?”
Here’s WIKIPEDIA: “Wilson was purposely, with few exceptions, kept out of the presence of Vice President Thomas R. Marshall, his cabinet or Congressional visitors to the White House for the remainder of his presidential term. His first wife, Ellen, had died in 1914, so his second wife, Edith, served as his steward, selecting issues for his attention and delegating other issues to his cabinet heads. This was, as of 2008[update], the most serious case of presidential disability in American history and was later cited as a key example why ratification of the 25th Amendment was seen as important.[citation needed]”
You know, in right-wing Argentina, Eva Peron was the very popular wife of the president. Kinda like a Hillary co-president. She got breast cancer, and it was kept completely secret because some feared it would cause the whole government to collapse. It is a sign of the vitality of our democracy that Betty Ford, Gerald Ford's very popular wife, publicly disclosed her breast cancer, and discussed her treatment. The Fords wanted to avoid SECRECY.
Imagine if Wilson had suffered his stroke earlier, during World War I's "hot period." Do you think we'd be more of a democracy if the decisions were taken by...the president's wife? Or perhaps...her lover? Or her mother and father, or an elder brother....? At the time, the Constitution didn't make it absolutely clear that the Vice President would fully assume the presidency.
During John F. Kennedy's election and presidency, information about his physical health was kept secret from the American public. Among other things, Kennedy had Addison's Disease, a very dangerous and incurable condition. Questions arose, but only within Kennedy's tiny, inner circle, like, which doctor is treating the president? What drugs and meds is he taking? Who will act in his stead if he becomes ill, or semi-functional?
After Kennedy's assassination, the Congress decided to fully clarify the matter, and they wrote and ratified the 25th Amendment. So now, the health and fitness of the VP became equally important.
SECRECY is the main issue here. But the deeper question, of course, is the quality of presidential leadership vis-a-vis the president's health.
Disclosing medical records has become standard for serious presidential candidates since Kennedy. There's a very interesting article generally at http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/96/5/325, showing how the health and medical information on all leadership, not just American, affects global politics and political decision-making.
There's never any guarantee that political leadership won't BECOME ill while in office. But certainly, disclosing known health issues prior to elections has become a solid part of the landscape since Kennedy.
For women, the questions become somewhat different--could a female president hold office if she were to give birth? What if she had complications? Most female politicians claim they have no problem giving birth, etc., but they don't hold the nation's highest office, with supreme military powers, etc. The presidency is a special office, and I don't think we've really thought through what it will mean for a woman to hold it, or to be a heartbeat away from holding it. Women leaders like Margaret Thatcher could do it because their childbearing years were behind them when they got to the very top, so it wasn't an issue. But then, as we age, things crop up. Indeed, one Bayou Buzz reader mentioned mammograms. You know, many women have breast cancer, and treatment can be very debilitating. Even simple radiation is no piece of cake. You have to take it for a while, and the effects last a while. Meanwhile, can you really run the country as well as if you were healthy?
This is a fair question.
Chemotherapy is also extremely debilitating. These courses of treatment can last for weeks, months, and even years. Can we really fight the Iraq War when our hair is falling out and we are puking all the time? We had some discussion about these issues because of McCain's cancer history, but we really haven't hashed out health issues and the presidency.
Of course, we do idealize our leadership. We like to think of our leaders as healthy, vital people. But the reality is that many people rule over us in varying stages of good and bad health. Sometimes we know about it, sometimes we don't. Ronald Reagan's last few years in office, where people accused him of being "lazy" but apparently, he was suffering early stages of Alzheimer's, is a good example of the dilemma.
For me, the main issue is SECRECY. I'd put it like this--SECRET PRESIDENCIES THREATEN DEMOCRACY. In fact, they actually impose periods of NON-DEMOCRACY. If we know more about our leaders' health issues, we can make better decisions about electing them, and better decisions about how we will handle things when and if they do become ill or incapacitated.
Also, we don't want candidates to postpone getting medical help just so that they can promote their candidacy, and pretend to be healthy when they may have a problem. While I am no fan of the former Senator John Edwards, I was concerned that his wife, Elizabeth, had postponed her treatment for breast cancer until after the election when he ran with Dole. She said she discovered a lump during the campaign, but waited several weeks to see a doctor because she didn't want to stop campaigning. Perhaps she didn't get the mammogram she surely needed because of the rigors of political life.
And I know the feminists will scream, but the idea that a female candidate might have an abortion because pregnancy would complicate her political career is a very real possibility. But is the solution for the female candidate to go about her political life and endanger her fetus? WE haven't really addressed these issues as a nation, and we obviously need to start doing this.
THIS is why I love Bayou Buzz! It is a great forum for just these deep issues.
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I am curious, why should anyne have to reveal medical records simply because they are running for public office? What business is that of the voters anyway? Written by kpf
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Hello, Uhm...Mr./Ms. Blank,
My only "fixation" with mammograms is that every woman over 40 should get one!
My position on all politicians running for the presidency and vice presidency is that they should ALL release their medical records, whether they are male or female. Females might have more medical information popularly regarded as "personal," since they are women, and physically, they have a whole unique area for medical inquiry (unique as opposed to the typical man). We may gag at seeing an Ob/Gyn medical history, but that's just science! As women join political contests for higher office, we'll just have to get accustomed to asking those personal medical questions.
Sarah Palin needs to release her medical records. She apparently believes she has done so, but she has not. Since she says she has no objection to doing this on ANY grounds, she needs to just do it.
Releasing her medical records should go a long way at dispelling all the rumors about her last pregnancy. But it is not the only reason that she should release her medical records. Written by Sarah Whalen
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What, do have some kind of a fixation for mamograms or something there Sarah? Written by
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Frantic Flintstone may want to check out the new Palin pregnancy pic at http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/12/a-fourth-pictur.html--"The Fourth Picture."
Of course, photos can be faked, shopped, taken at funny angles, in bad lighting, in shadows, and shadows can play tricks. This is why the medical records are the best proof of Palin's health, including pregnancies.
For me, the major issue has always been one of credibility, and just being a good, trustworthy candidate. This includes submitting medical records, and all candidates should do it. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, kpf,
I bet you have your tree up, your lights up, and all your presents wrapped!
Didja notice that Madame Schlossberg would like to become a U.S. Senator now? I think the Dems are positioning....They need an anti-Palin--someone who is attractive, has kids (lots of kids), can cross those cultural boundaries, and who, uhm...reads books and newspapers and magazines.
Lots of Dems are shrieking that it's so unfair for Caroline Kuhkuhkuhkennedy Schlossberg to become a senator without paying dues, being political, getting experience.... But I think she's positioning to be in place for when God gives Palin "the call."
whaddahyouthink? Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Sid,
Me, a hypocrite? Nah.... When I commence my candidacy for the U.S. vice presidency in 2012, I plan to release every single solitary medical record, including those of my pregnancies. No problemo! Or should I say, no "Palin problemo?" "Cause yes, it seems as though she has a problem. Looming! But it's easily fixed, if all is as she claims it is. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Frantic Flintstone,
sorry to disagree with your take on the NY Times link, but I state the truth. ALL the presidential and vice-presidential candidates should release their medical records, and do so fully. That is my position, and it was the position of every physician who signed that petition. I would never try to mislead any reader, and if I did so accidentally, I'd correct it. But here, there's nothing to correct.
Palin has not yet released ANY medical records. She remains the only 2008 VP/Presidential candidate to FAIL to submit a medical record of any kind.
However, since she's said repeatedly, and publicly, that she believes she has done so, and her medical records "correct" all the alleged errors journalists made about her last pregnancy, Palin should just go ahead and genuinely waive her privacy rights, and make her medical records public.
Why not? She says she has no problem with it!
I am not singling her out for this failure. ALL serious candidates need to do this. Palin has added considerably to the public's interest in her health by relating stories about her pregnancy and delivery of Trig that some people find surprising and, frankly, not worthy of belief. But she's done this on her own. If she never runs for office again, it won't be an issue. But since she clearly plans to do this, she needs to submit her medical records ASAP so that all questions about her health, mental and physical, can be resolved before the GOP spends any more hundreds of thousands of dollars on tanning, hair styling, etc. Written by Sarah Whalen
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You claim that 2,700 physicians have demanded Palin release her medical records.
I clicked on your link and this is what is said: "In recent weeks, more than 2,700 physicians have signed a petition that ran as an advertisement demanding that Mr. McCain fully release his health records; the petition is sponsored by Brave New Films, the company led by Robert Greenwald, a Hollywood filmmaker who has contributed $2,250 to Democratic candidates and has made a number of anti-McCain videos."
So, the 2,700 physicians demanded that John McCain, not Sarah Palin, release his his medical records, because of concerns about his age (if he died in office, Palin would be prez). This petition was sponsored by an extreme partisan Democrat.
I'm agnostic on all these speculatons about Palin. I just stopped reading your blog post when I clicked on your link and saw that you had misrepresented the news story you linked to. Your post lost credibility when you did that, so no reason to keep reading it. LEt that bea lesson to you: Make sure you represent your links accurately. I realize your fans will not even bother to click on your links to check it you are representing them accurately, but some of us do. Written by FranticFlintstone
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Still not releasing YOUR medical records I see Miss Whalen. You are such a hypocrite. Written by Sid
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The "base likes her"? Well... the "base" of both parties votes a la "Star Search" - on personality instead of ideas, IMHO. Personally, I'm more interested in someone with the courage to stand up to the special interests of THEIR OWN party and do what's right for ALL Americans, than in what this person's party, gender, sexual orientation or color may be. I hope that Obama will be this type of leader (and not wind up like JFK for failing to do the bidding of the power brokers - OOPS... dere goes dat paranoia 'spiracy ting again!). Written by kpf, gotta be productive b4 da holidays, bye now
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Hello, kpf,
Thanks for writing again! The problems with Condi's book were recognized as being dangerous to her claims of foreign policy expertise, and in their urge to promote her as an intellect for higher office, the GOP teamed her up with Philip Zelikow, an intellectual powerhouse who, all by himself, really can write a book. They wrote, "Germany Unified." They were given unprecedented access to secret documents--something less-well-connected scholars have to fight hard for.
Condi did not use original works in her dissertation/book because her ability to use Eastern European languages necessary for her topic was very limited.
The fix has been in for Condi for quite some time--since the Reagan years, when George Schultz got Chevron to name a tanker for her. But the base isn't so mesmerized with Condi's Brahms sonata piano-playing as it is about Sarah Palin shooting a moose. And the king and queen makers are much more impressed with Sarah Palin's sexiness, NRA membership, etc. Sarah has a large family. Condi lives alone with her pianos. She lacks the va-va-voom.
Polls show the base is still in love with Palin. But her refusal to release her medical records--and her misrepresentation that she's done so-- remains a problem if she's going to run for higher office again.
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Also - with all the negatives (the unpopularity of GWB, the economy, two unpopular wars) the GOP candidate still managed 46% of the vote. If you were tasked with taking a losing party and given four years to turn it around, wouldn't the fact that you garnered 46% of the popular vote in the last election be encouraging? The outlook for the GOP is not that bleak. My own preference - the Libertarian Party - now... those folks have a seriously unlikely chance of winning in 2012; but not a party that came as close as "almost half of the vote" in this past election. Actually I'd like to see Obama truly be a centrist and - while bringing forth reforms to healthcare and education - not kill our economy with overly anti-market socialistic programs. I do wish the man well, for all of our sakes (this of course is assuming I'm wrong about "Big Money" controlling both parties.... me Cher, I dunno....). Written by kpf
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I seriously doubt that a book Condi Rice wrote at age 30 with - as her critic says - "without access to relevant Czechoslovak and Soviet documents ...much of this book by Condoleezza Rice is based on secondary works" will stop her career 20+ years later. I also cannot see Sarah Palin going head-to-head with Ms. Rice and coming off looking as anything other than second best. Neither of these two may be on the ticket in 4 years but I would think Condi Rice would fare better than Sarah Palin as a potential presidential candidate (or the V.P. slot) for the GOP. I really do not think the GOP needs to re-invent itself, our voters are fickle enough to vote them back in if "things" do not go as they wish (the party in power is always blamed for "things" going well or not, rightly or wrongly so). Actually, I'm one of those "kooks" who believes that both parties are not just beholden - but owned - by our central bankers and other mega-rich entities and that explains why things never change much. "Change is here" - I truly hope change for the better is here, but I suspect not actually. Written by kpf
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Hello, kpf,
Gee, I wish the GOP could do that, but...it likely can't.
I think that Condi was originally the "It" girl for the GOP, and they spent a fortune in time and effort grooming her for the inevitable run against Hillary Clinton. But there are problems with Condi, not least of which is her long association with the now unpopular Bushes--both 41 and 43. Plus, her doctoral dissertation took a real bashing a while back. Go to Joseph Kalvoda's article in The American Historical Review, which is online at http://www.counterpunch.org/kalvoda04202004.html. You may dislike Counterpunch, but Joseph Kalvoda didn't write his review for them. He's a scholar of Eastern European history and politics--the area that Condi Rice is supposedly so expert. His review is almost hilarious, but I find the most interesting part is where he says: "Rice's selection of sources raises questions, since he [sic] frequently does not sift facts from propaganda and valid information from disinformation or misinformation. He passes judgments and expresses opinions without adequate knowledge of facts."
Kalvoda is a scholar and had no reason to suck up to Condi. He didn't even know who she was--and clearly thought she was a man.
A big problem with the Bush 43 administration seems to be just as Kalvoda describes, especially in regards to the Iraq Invasion--an inability ( or unwillingness) to "sift facts from propaganda and valid information from disinformation." Condi in 2012? No, I doubt it very much. And that is a huge disappointment, because the GOP put a huge amount of time and money into grooming Condi for the presidency or vice presidency.
If the GOP wants to win in 2012, it needs to re-vamp itself and get genuine again. This will take a lot of time and effort. The old ways aren't working anymore. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Let this be the last word on Sarah Palin as a Republican presidential candidate: Imagine this... two Republican presidential candidates having a debate..... Sarah Palin vs. Condi Rice. SLAM DUNK! Condi Rice may run as the GOP presidential candidate vs. Obama in 2012, no way will it be Palin - she's old news. Written by kpf
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Hello, L. Grillot,
I try to keep my work on the facts, and here, the fact is that Palin has never released her medical records. But she claims she has. And then, she claims that "the media" has "lied" about her "record" and refuses to "correct" it. She's stated this on Larry King's CNN show, and also to FOX News and the Anchorage Daily News in the first interviews she gave after losing the election and returning to Alaska. Palin's statements on all counts are untrue, but apparently she has no objection to her medical records being released, so she should do so right away, before the GOP spends any more money promoting and grooming her for the top job in 2012. I write "this stuff" under my own name, always.
Thanks for writing, and for sharing your views and personal experiences. Some women have great pregnancy experiences, others have more complications, and so this is yet another real reason why ONLY Palin's medical records and/or DNA tests will prove, one way or another, what her actual experience was. If she intends to run again for high national office, it would be best for the GOP if she fully discloses her medical records now.
Lots of people have various opinions about Governor Sarah Palin's claims to have been pregnant with Trig, and there's an interesting blog at http://www.palindeception.com/ that discusses the issues you raise about pregnancy and fertility. This blog fully discusses issues like Palin's flight to Alaska while "leaking" amniotic fluid, etc.
And in fact, the odds of a woman in her 40s becoming pregnant without fertility assistance, such as drugs or IVF, and carrying a fetus to term are fairly slim, unfortunately. The odds of a teenager becoming pregnant naturally are far greater. But congratulations on your own pregnancies and family! I am sure that many older women trying to conceive envy you!
And sadly, in the beginning, like many, I quite liked Sarah Palin. But I was not impressed with her conduct during the campaign, and she continues, sadly, to disappoint, mostly due to her obviously untrue statements. But that is just my opinion.
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Hello, Sid,
What's wrong with ABC News? Just asking! Are they too liberal, do you think? There are many other sources on the poll results.
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Who writes this stuff??? What an idiotic statement to say that a 44 year old woman should have a harder time giving birth than a 17 year old. In fact, the opposite is true, I just had my 8th child at the ripe old age of 46. All are healthy. A 17 year old has a greater chance of miscarriage than a 44 year old does, and a 44 year old has a greater chance of having a downs syndrome child than a 17 year old. Get your facts straight and clear up your political views. Just because you don't like her doesn't mean you get to spew false info. Written by L.Grillot
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Consider the source, ABC news. Again, dear Bayou Buzz what is with the Sarah Palin obsession? Written by Sid
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Mr. Blank,
Well, it sure could be worse! Sarah Palin could be President! Or, more likely, she could run for president after a few years of intensive tutelage by Republicans, all on the GOP's dime, while much more deserving and able GOP guvs and senators are simply pushed aside because they don't rally the fringe with wolf-killing talk. Then, all the old issues of Palin not releasing her medical records arise again, only this time, it becomes serious, costly, and...again, the GOP loses.
Not good.
If the GOP really wants to push Palin's candidacy and is willing to put their time and money behind it, and bounce all the other guv candidates out of the ring, the GOP needs to be really, really sure about whether Palin is their dream candidate, or just a dream. A bad dream. That doesn't end. If she releases her medical records NOW, she will clarify a lot of issues one way or another. And if she won't release her medicals, then the GOP should dump her now.
But either way, we know that Palin has told a significant untruth--she never released her medical records. Not a one. Yet she keeps saying she did. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Mr. Blank!
Uhm...lessee..."sticks and stones can break my bones. But people who like to be anonymous can call me names on blogs, and this will never hurt me."
Something like that.... Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, chaubert,
It's not trash. Governor Sarah Palin never released her medical records. However, she has publicly stated, several times, that she did so. She also criticized "the media" for failing to report it, and for failing to "correct" their errors.
Who Trig's biological parents are is only tangential to the real issue, which is Palin's dishonesty.
That's not "trashy." That is the truth.
The GOP needs to consider this before it begins to "groom" her for a presidential run in 2012. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Ehhhhhh,, perhaps we simply have to bear the staff infection.... Could be worse I suppose...... Written by
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Trash journalism of the most despicable sort. The author should be removed from the staff. Written by chaubert
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We are dealing with goofy-goofy gopher holes..... Go-Go Gophers comming, Go-Go-Go! Written by
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Hello, kpf,
I am a big believer in following the money, especially given the most recent debacle. You know, a decade or so ago, bankruptcy laws were tightened to prevent consumers from financially abusing the credit system. Well, who's going to tighten the rules on the big banks, big brokers, big, big big.....you know?
Flip through any financial mag--Business Week, Fortune...and you'll see some amazing advertisements for, uhm, "timepieces" that cost, oh, $35K; vacations in luxury hotels where you'd pay $3K a day just for the room; all manner of luxurious automobiles....
May I be so bold as to suggest some audits of those guys who are "managing" our retirement accounts, our family stock funds, our little nuts and berries stashes?
I think they should be made to give it all back. Re-distribute it, have a yard sale....I know it sounds, uhm, socialist? no, wait...Obama-ish, as in "spreading the wealth" and all...but hey, my kid once tried to take something that did not belong to him, and I gently slapped his little hand and made him give it back.
Why not do this now? Written by
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Hello, Sid,
The issue is that Palin lied about submitting her medical records. She has NEVER submitted any, although she repeatedly claims she has.
And it's awfully early in her national political career for her to start lying about things like this.
AS I've stated clearly, if I were in contention for the office of president or vice president, I would gladly submit my medical records.
And in fact, for LOTS of jobs these days, you have to not only submit medical records, but agree to medical exams, drug tests, hair samples, DNA, urine and blood samples, on and on. Don't want to give those? Then don't apply for the job! Don't work for an airline, a restaurant, a hotel, the police, the fire department.... Even teaching jobs nowadays require pretty rigorous medical and even psychological exams. I believe that Home Depot requires these for some positions.
I don't usually get into personal commentary, but I will disclose to you that I've submitted both past medical records as well as agreed to current medical tests and evaluations for a variety of jobs I've held. This is now pretty standard for lots of employment. I'm sure many other Americans have done the same, without complaint, and without surprise or feigned outrage, or making privacy arguments.
If one wants the top job, or the second-top-job, but doesn't want to jump through the hoops to get it...well, isn't that how dictatorships come about, really?
The argument, though, is about Sarah Palin lying about having disclosed her medical records. She never did, and has not yet. This indicates that maybe there is a problem that the GOP should learn more about before it spends more money promoting her political career. Written by Sarah Whalen
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While not buying into the "conspiracy theorists who say there's a New World Order-One World Government" as it is often portrayed (such as a "Communist Conspiracy" by the JBS), I do believe that "big money" (international banking interests, big oil, etc) DO TRY THEIR BEST to control BOTH political parties in this country. Really... they do not even attempt to hide that fact. I hope Obama is above this and is more than a front man for "Big Money" - but I suspect he is not. Still, his party will enact more liberal legislation, but "follow the money" and see who benefits regardless of what policy is enacted - I suspect there won't be any "change" in that respect. Written by kpf
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Still waiting on your medical records Sarah. Until you produce them you can forget about moving on to the National Enquirer as an investigative reporter!! Written by Sid
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Hello, Mike,
I don't have to depend on the numbers to tell you that Sarah Palin is not telling the public the truth when she claims to have released her medical records--she's done no such thing.
But you raise a lot of interesting points. I have been really surprised by Obama resurrecting the Clintons and the Clinton cabinet--makes you almost take those conspiracy theorists who say there's a New World Order-One World Government. I get lots of email about that! Obama's campaign promised 'Change," didn't it? But there seems to be a lot of familiarity. I knew when he appointed Rahm Emmanuel that the fix was in!
But there are lots of good things, nationally and internationally, to having Obama be president. I'd really hoped that McCain would have his chance there, but probably, ideally, that should have happened the last cycle, when W decided to run. I knew it would be an uphill battle for McCain no matter who ran with him. But I was totally startled when he chose Sarah Palin, a complete unknown. I thought from the beginning that this would doom him, and it did.
You know, in 4-8 years, if Palin works at it, she could be a tough candidate to beat. But she'll have to do a lot more than just wink and give us all her pageant wave. And things like the clothing purchases (really over the top) and her story of Trig's birth need to be checked out before the RNC invests millions and millions in her process. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Ah yes, Sarah: still cling to that media-driven myth (because McCain will still always be the media's favorite Republican, so it wasn't HIS fault). Fact is: If McCain had voted AGAINST the bailout he would in fact be readying himself from the presidency some 62 days from now. But no, that would require taking a CONSERVATIVE position. You see, how could Palin (who was very much anti-bailout but had to mimic McCain on it for obvious reasons) have cost McCain even ONE conservative vote when McCain's never taken a conservative stand (on a major issue) in his career in D.C.?
Are you disappointed McCain lost? If not (I suspect you aren't), why go on about "evil bimbo Sarah" costing him votes then? That'd be like me going on about Tony Romo blowing it in the playoffs the last two years (when I HATE the Cowboys)
If a McCain presidency meant pandering to indys on global warming, immigration, no drilling, basically everything Barry's going to do (in that case, what's the difference?); then I'm GLAD he lost. Mindless pandering does not win indys (or anyone else) over, hell Bush has been doing that for at least three years and his ratings are garbage.
Now, objectively speaking, if you had to vote for the ticket that had a young, aggressive go-getter and a past-his-prime windbag senator, or the ticket that had a young, aggressive go-getter and past-his-prime windbag senator only the roles were reversed, you'd probably vote for the former (although we'll see if Barry's up to the task; surrounding himself with Clinton retreads ain't 'go-gettin' anything), especially if you didn't see much different between the two platforms in the first place.
See, numbers won't tell you that, but are you still planning on basing your views around them?
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Hello, Sid,
No, no, never! I am a clean kid! Unlike Governor Palin, who tokes! But she's honest about it. Written by SArah Whalen
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Hello, Sid,
Well, silly! The pregnant-woman-giving-birth-on-the-plane thing only works if you're a woman! Or perhaps a man who's the opposite of that womMAN who has the testosterone injections, who recently gave birth and is pregnant again. People are so crazy, arent' they? I don't think those folks are Republican, but who knows? the more, the merrier, as the First Dude likes to say!
No writer's motivation is so important. Very often, people suggest the things I write about, because they find it an important issue. In the case of my article on Palin failing to release her medical records, the issue just kind of evolved, as it became apparent that the real issue was not so much her failure to release, but her repetetive lying about having released them!
Even if she's just Governor of a big, cold, empty state, that is just...worth writing about! So I did.
And when I run for the highest office in the land, i vow to release my medical records to the public well in advance. In fact, I think most people's eyes glaze over when they read those things! So, rarely is there any harm done in terms of vote-getting. But candor with the electorate still remains important. I mean, if you elect someone who turns out to be a narcissitic, serial liar and...and...well, I think Americans have done this already. Maybe even more than once (cue the Palin wink here)! And yeah, we are all still here to talk about it,so the world didn't end. but, as a really, really famous person once said, fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame...shame on....dang! Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Mr. Blank,
Well, thank you for writing. I DO feel very slinky in my Walmart finery! I bought a pair of very sexy boots that go for FAR more moolah at Macy's than the $27 buckeroos I paid at the place where America shops. Of course, mine are a little less quality (you can see the glue if you look real carefully, but people so rarely do).
Thanks for your thoughtful sentiments, and your encouragement to run for the presidency. Maybe in 2012!
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Well, where's your medical records Miss Whalen? What's your reason for not submitting them on the page? And by the way I'll dress up like a pregnant woman, if you'll go with me. This line about Palin is like beating farts out of a dead mule. I can't understand the constant attacks. Are you a McCain fan who honestly feels that Palin cost him the election and you can't forgive her, are you jealous, or are you some liberal who feels as though this woman is the closest thing to Reagan the Republicans have come up with? And you know as well as I do that the democrats have no answer for a Reagan like candidate. Geeeez, or is this something just to get the commoners fired up? That's why we need your medical files Sarah, if your name is really Sarah. Maybe the name Sarah exudes conspiracy theories?? Written by Sid
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Hello, Sid,
You know, I went back and read your post again. You raise a lot of thoughtful issues, and I just want to share with you how high my own hopes were about Palin, initially. But it took, oh, only a few days, really, to see that she was quite inadequate, in almost every way, for serious consideration. This is not to say that Sarah Palin lacks ANY redeeming qualities! This is not to say that her family is not nice, even lovely!
Who knows?
What is worth noting, and worth writing about, is that not only did she NOT release her medical records, but she LIED about it, and claimed she did so.
That is interesting, and worth writing about.
And no, I'm not Steve Sabludowsky in drag! First of all, Steve is a super-masculine guy, a First Dude editor! I can't even imagine him in drag! But you got a big laugh out of me. But you raise yet another, really fascinating issue about medical records, because in fact, I applied for a job recently--not even the presidency or vice presidency--and I had to not only release medical records, but I had to give a thorough medical exam, with blood, stool, and hair samples, plus a little looky uhm..la bas. both ends of la bas!
And then I remembered that, when i had a waitressing stint a while back, I had to do that, too! I could have just asked my family physcian to write me a letter, but I don't think the corporation that hired me would have agreed to that. No. I had to see THEIR doctor! no privacy!
Medical info is important. Medical records are the best, most reliable proof. If Palin doesn't want to disclose them, she shouldn't run. And that goes the same for anyone. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, kpf,
Well, that is a spectre that's been haunting the GOP ever since election night! The Dems could muster it up, but it's fragile. This is why they've not punished Joe Lieberman for swinging with McCain recently. They need his vote. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Mike,
Sad to say, but McCain lost a huge part of the Independent and-otherwise-conservative vote due to Palin. While certainly some of "the base" were energized by her, and related to her well, even the bump they gave McCain in GOP votes could not outstrip those alienated by Palin.
Pollsters have so concluded. McCain is a gentleman, and not bitter about it. It was clearly out of his hands from the start. Could he have run a better campaign? Sure! But it is Palin's presence on the ticket that cost him the top job. Now, he is repositioning to keep his old job, which apparently, he likes a lot. And who knows? He may get a nice plum from Obama. His chances of working in the Obama administration are greater if he is gracious about his defeat at Palin's hands.
And while some conservatives might rail at this, I think we--the nation--are heading for a very rough economic ride, of which we are only getting a little taste of right now. Obama knows he needs a bi-partisan government to survive, and every single politician currently holding office today, regardless of party affiliation, knows that their own fates hang in the balance here. Americans could just sweepingly vote out every single person who's helped create the economic chaos of today. And even those who didn't risk being blamed, and punished at the polls.
So...it's smiley faces all around! For now.
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Palin was a tactic - an attempt to draw HRC supporters ("angry feminists" supposedly) to vote the McCain/Palin ticket after she lost the nomination to Barak Obama. The most memorable thing about her to me is just how much time liberals spend talking about her, even now. I realize there are many on both sides who still cannot seem to let go of the fascination with Sarah Palin, but I doubt she will be a serious contender for any national office anytime soon, if ever again. What is news is that the Democratic Party has a chance (perhaps I'm the only person who did not realize this) to get a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. THAT is news, and may have a great impact on the future course of this country (either due to "where the Democratic Party takes us" or the backlash due to "where the Democratic Party takes us"). That is far more interesting to me than Sarah Palin. Written by kpf
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Hello, Sid,
I forgot to add that, anyone--including you, including me--who wants to run for the presidency of the United States has to face the fact that their medical history is important, and they will need to make their medical records public. This includes Obama. I respect the laws of the United States that say that foreign-born citizens are not eligible to run for the presidency. I believe the Founding Fathers made a good choice when they did this. It does complicate things for people who, for whatever reason, may lack a birth certificate, or who were born in a far-away place, or who, like John McCain, were born in Panama, albeit in the Canal Zone (we hope!).
I think EVERYONE needs to follow these laws, rules and precepts. I don't think the American people should give anyone a free pass, whether it is Palin, Obama, or anyone else. The issue was raised when some thought that Kissinger would make a great president. Some think Arnold Schwartzenegger should run. But I trust in the Founders' wisdom. We're a nation of immigrants. But it is better for someone born in the U.S. to take office, even if this means waiting a generation or two.
If there is some fact, or some document putting that fact in issue, the candidate needs to address it, head on and directly, and produce real records which will either prove or disprove the allegation. Medical records are more informative of what risks are involved personally with each candidate. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Sid,
Tell ya what. Let's do an experiment. Get a 40-somethng gal to pretend to be pregnant, wear a big belly bump that realistically simulates 7 full months of pregnancy. Buy a ticket from Houston to Alaska. Wear a black tent dress, black blazer, and a long, mango-fuschia-colored scarf. Carry baggage, have 5-year-old daughter in tow, and head to the gate.
AS you hand your ticket to the steward/ess/boarding person, tell them:
"Gosh, this morning when I woke up at 4 am, I noticed that I am leaking amniotic fluid, and I am having intermittent contractions. But don't worry! I am only in my seventh month of pregnancy with a Downs Syndrome child who may require immediate medical attention upon his birth. Yet I was reponsible, and called my family physician in a remote area of Alaska, and I also called my husband in Alaska, and they both told me to go ahead and fly home on your aircraft. It's completely okay! My contractions are still pretty far apart, and I'm about 80 percent sure I won't deliver until tomorrow morning! My husband is especially concerned that our baby not be born in Texas."
What are the odds, do you think, that the airline allows this woman to board?
Even if she is the Governor of Alaska?
I would say that they would not have allowed her to fly. They would have directed her to the nearest Emergency Room. Do you think that even hotels would take a woman in as guest under such circumstances? They would call an ambulance, and wish her all the luck in the world.
Planes, hotels, taxi cabs, public buses...listen, babies are born in these every day. But it is not safe, not sanitary, not...SMART.
And Governor Sarah Palin is SMART. So, what other conclusions can we draw from this? None of them cast her in a positive light.
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Sarah that's BS. McCain cost himself, anything from his campaign suspension to not going after Obama (he should had an (R) next to his name that would have got McCain going--either that or put on a Donald Rumsfeld mask). As for the polls, sure they may identify themselves as "conservatives" but you don't really know in the end who is what. Besides, what about all the conservatives who stayed away from the polls because of McCain?
Not having mentioned the likely 63-37 split in the popular vote if McCain had Lieberman or Ridge instead. I didn't know you could cost someone an election by actually GAINING them 10% of the vote. Fact is, in the end McCain is the one who just wasn't presidential material. Hell, if he won't even take on his opponents what's he gonna do about idiots like Zawahiri who was popping off about Obama today? Written by Mike
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Miss Wahlen, on behalf of the 37 readers of this website I demand that you release your medical records immediately to dispel the rumors that you are in fact Stephen in drag! Just about as ridiculous as this article. What is it with your insatiable fetish with Mrs. Palin? Whay are you and the main street press so intent on trying to destroy this woman? She is in fact a true feminist. An accomplished woman who has broken the glass ceiling, a successful politician, a woman with a good and loving family that has experienced the same problems that we all face, a woman who re-energized the conservative base of the GOP. But apparently because she is a GOP member, is pro life, and is a Christian, she does not qualify to be supported by Woman's Rights groups? Is this the reason that you continually bash her? There is a double standard here, our President and VP elect have many unanswered questions. Did Biden Botox the forehead, where is Obama's birth certificate, why are Obama's college records sealed, why are there no published papers from the Harvard graduate and former head of the Harvard Law Review, why do we not ask about the 57 states he mentioned during the campaign, why why why? Also, it is apparent that you have never been around pregnant women much less been pregnant yourself. Pregnant women don't all get pregnant and go to bed for nine months. Many pregnant women run, lift weights, work out, work, drive, and fly on planes throughout their pregnancy. What is a shame is that we have voters that have no idea who Nancy Pelosi is, who Harry Reid is,have no idea who has been in the majority of Congress for the past two years, and who believe what Tina Fey said on SNL is actually what palin had stated. Dear God in heaven! Miss Whalen, personally I feel that your humor is shallow and your quest for the truth is only limited to GOP, pro life, Christian, feminists. Contrary to your beliefs, Palin re-energized the conservative base and kept Obama from getting the landslide that was predicted. McCain lost because of McCain. Joe the Plumber and Palin got McCain back to square one even with Obama, he did not have enough substance to get over the hump. Written by Sid
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Yeah, you can run for V>P>, it's a free country.... And you would look real chic in your boots and black leggings from “America's shopping center”….. May I suggest a Jindal/Whalen ticket? Perfect match, synchronized priorities... And seemingly congruent mindsets… Yeah, you two would make quite the dynamic duo... Written by
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Hello, ! Uhm, let's call you "Mr. Blank."
Yeah! Thanks for calling me "babe!" Ooh, I got all tingly when I read that!
And I am a babe. I just bought a really nice pair of boots and some black leggings today, and I paid for them all by myself without submitting ONE BILL to the RNC!
Bought 'em at Walmart, where America shops.
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Hello, Unsigned,
Thanks! I appreciate your comments, and it is great to see that you understand the real issue here. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Mike,
Sarah Palin did cost McCain the election--the polls show it clearly.
It would have been a much closer election if McCain had chosen someone else with more experience. Perhaps even a GOP win.
Sarah Palin has galvanized the fringe. But the fringe can never win. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Mike,
Sarah Palin did cost McCain the election--the polls show it clearly.
It would have been a much closer election if McCain had chosen someone else with more experience. Perhaps even a GOP win.
Sarah Palin has galvanized the fringe. But the fringe can never win. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Nat,
All politicians vying for the presidency should release their medical records, including Obama. I don't cut Obama any slack on this point. But he did release SOME medical records, in addition to his doctor's letter.
Doctor's letters are self-serving docs that aren't worth the paper they are printed on, in terms of reliability. They may be true statements of health, or they may not be. The only reliable record is the actual medical record of the candidate. This is not to say that doctor's records are not useful, especially if they explain some kind of unusual circumstance, or a condition that is not well known, or if the effects of some medical condition have a great variance.
But the letter from a doctor--not even necessarily the actual treating physician, or the only one--is not a medical record. In Governor Palin's case, the State of Alaska is in charge of its official documents--birth certificates, and the medical records that are not only kept in the normal course of treatment by physicians, but which are required to be kept by the state, as a matter of law.
Your other remarks are interesting, and I believe everyone has the right to express their opinions. But I assure you, I would NEVER trade my life for Sarah Palin's! Not even for a sec. Not for a six-figure wardrobe, or a six-figure job. Nope. I actually have a very nice life. I do not envy Sarah Palin at all. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Nat,
All politicians vying for the presidency should release their medical records, including Obama. I don't cut Obama any slack on this point. But he did release SOME medical records, in addition to his doctor's letter.
Doctor's letters are self-serving docs that aren't worth the paper they are printed on, in terms of reliability. They may be true statements of health, or they may not be. The only reliable record is the actual medical record of the candidate. This is not to say that doctor's records are not useful, especially if they explain some kind of unusual circumstance, or a condition that is not well known, or if the effects of some medical condition have a great variance.
But the letter from a doctor--not even necessarily the actual treating physician, or the only one--is not a medical record. In Governor Palin's case, the State of Alaska is in charge of its official documents--birth certificates, and the medical records that are not only kept in the normal course of treatment by physicians, but which are required to be kept by the state, as a matter of law.
Your other remarks are interesting, and I believe everyone has the right to express their opinions. But I assure you, I would NEVER trade my life for Sarah Palin's! Not even for a sec. Not for a six-figure wardrobe, or a six-figure job. Nope. I actually have a very nice life. I do not envy Sarah Palin at all. Written by
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Hello, kpf,
what makes Palin different from the other pols? Uhm...willingness to submit real medical records springs to mind. Yup.
But I share your election fatigue. Political fatigue, really. We haven't had a really genius, great politician in our midst in quite some time. There's a whole generation today who has NEVER experienced it.
So I do understand why you sound jaded.
Where are the greats? Written by Sarah Whalen
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One more thing that hasn't been hit on, "Who will be the next to go down in flames?", assuming that Sarah Palin was the entire reason that McCain lost. Uh, no. There was a reason Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin and the like DREADED McCain getting the win in the primaries. In fact the whole GOP primary was saddled with losers except for Fred Thompson, who is better suited to a role in the RNC anyway.
So to suggest the good gov was responsible for sinking McCain's career. She can do many things, but McCain did all that himself. Written by Mike
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Agree with everything except the self-centered liar part. But let's play devil's advocate for a sec. Why in God's name do we vote for one pack of self-centered liars every year then? Written by Mike
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The election is over, Palin is not going to be promoted by the Republlicans for national office. So she's a self-centered liar. Tell me now... that makes her different from the vast majority of our politicians of both parties... just how exactly? Written by kpf
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Wow, I am truly shocked by the defensiveness of some of these comments. Why is it that so many people (Sarah Palin included) get so defensive when journalists try to tell the truth?
Great article Sarah W, I am glad someone else has picked up on the inconsistencies in Palin’s birthing story. I, for one, had never doubted that Trig was her biological son until I started noticing post-election interviews in which Palin consistently brings up this issue. Why?
Secondly, I think the circumstances surrounding the birth show us a lot about the person that Sarah Palin is. Whether she is Trig’s biological mother or not, both scenarios give us a clear indication of how selfish she is… it’s all about Sarah. In Scenario 1, if someone else (Bristol?) is the mother, then why did she fake the pregnancy? For her own, “superwoman,” image? To show that she can “really do it all”? In Scenario 2, if Sarah Palin gave birth to Trig, then she showed a blatant disregard for her unborn child’s welfare (ESPECIALLY “knowing” that he was a special needs child) by giving a speech, flying 8 hrs (plus a 2 hour layover in Seattle) and driving 2 more hours to small rural hospital when she had her choice of cities with exceptional NICUs… all while her water was leaking. Somewhere in that timeline she should have seen a doctor.
The point about wanting to see the medical records isn’t because she released a letter (like President-elect Obama) and that should be enough. It’s the fact that she SAYS she already released her medical records which PROVE she is Trig’s mom. She only released a letter about medical records, which proves nothing. Whether is the biological mother or not, I would think she would by now be tired of the crap and release something regarding the rumor (?). She could release a photo of the birth, which keeps her medical records safe. Or a photo of a non-pregnant Bristol with her mother in the days leading up to births, but so far, none have been found. Or she could authorize her doctor or the medical staff of Mat-Su to release a statement that says, “Yes, Sarah Palin gave birth on April 18, 2008, to a 6 lb 2 oz baby boy with Trisomy 21.” That’s ALL that needs to be said.
But since no medical professional will stake their career on saying that, we are stuck with the continual assertions that it has been proven that Sarah Palin gave birth to Trig.
This is also about the so-called transparency Sarah Palin keeps insisting her administration has. Although I have yet to a deeply look into her years as governor in Alaska (although if the travelling and clothing allowance are any indication, it’s going to be a fun look) then she needs to just cut the crap and SHOW the truth. She can say it ten thousand times, but that doesn’t make it the truth.
Thanks again, Sarah W, for being one of the very few journalists to continue to question the veracity of Sarah Palin’s continued insistence that she’s released her medical records. Written by unsigned
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I am a first time reader of the Bayou Buzz and I came across and read this so called editorial by a so called reporter of fact, and this my last time as a reader of the Bayou Buzz. Ms Whalen, you are indeed NOT a reporter of fact. Sad, very sad......actually quite pathetic. Out of here. Written by Offshore Louisiana
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Pardon my lack of proofreading below............"IT IS NOT ABOUT FEELING AFFECTION" Written by NAT
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Ms. Whalen, It is about about "feeling affection for Palin". It is about a lack of depth by a you as a blogger, and the very nature of your viciousness in attacking a woman on an issue that shuld only be relevant to her family, EVEN IF YOU HAD REAL FACTS, which you do not, based on the sources YOU put out there to support your
statements. I stick by what I said. You were be a very lonely, jealous woman to find this subject matter so relevant to your life and your blogging. Truth be told, you're really a very mean spirited woman, and I feel sorry for you. Oh, and by the way, yes I know McCain and Biden released medical information. I must have missed your blog on the president-elect only offering up a page medical comment from his doctor that simply said, "Mr Obama is in good health". Maybe you can point me to your article on that. After all, he is about to be our president whereas Palin was not elected. I wonder, do you not get it?? Written by nat
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The server now....... Now that is something that is sort of funny, and I mean that in an off-handed way...... Written by
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Uhhhhhhhh,,, noooooooo, daats wuzn't funny..... Sadddddd perhaps, but no, not funny................... Written by
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"Anyway, the big chief editor poobah Royal Buffalo guy said, oh, don't be funny,"....Haaa!,,, Now, daaats funny:) Written by KjunLady
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Oh blahhhhhhhhh - - - - - - Sarah (W), when you wrote; “I had originally written this Palin piece as a funny one……” I was doing my best to find the humor in it, I thought the origional story was simply you having PTCRD…. (Post tramatic campaign results disorder)……. but you saved yourself in the end when you additonally wrote; “But you've inspired me to keep pushing for the humorous piece.” Yeah Sarah babe, keep searching for your moronic inspiration, and don’t stop trying (ha-ha), you might glance on humor some day, and it might even approach funny, but for right now - - - - phtttttttttt…. Hey, you wouldn’t by any chance be a skit writter for SNL would you? They turn out the same kind of retardo style lame crap too… Written by
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Hello, KjunLady,
Thanks for the good vibe! I had originally written this Palin piece as a funny one--I thought Palin's remark that people who criticized her were a bunch of loser "writing in their pajamas in their parents' basements" to be quite hilarious.
I call us the "Pajamamanians!"
I don't live in my parents' basement. I mean, being from NOLA, we never had a basement. But I haven't lived with my folks since I got out of school! Not that I think there's anything wrong with that. You just have to be extra careful. I mean, Bristol lived at home iwth her parents, probably didn't wear pajamas, and lookee at what happened...ooops!
Anyway, the big chief editor poobah Royal Buffalo guy said, oh, don't be funny, it's a serious, serious issue. So, I typed out my best frownie face, and pushed forward.
But you've inspired me to keep pushing for the humorous piece. Thanks! Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, ts,
I haven't distorted any of the facts in the available journalistic record on Governor Palin. Plenty of Alaskans were questioning whether she was pregnant and, if not, what that might mean about her psychologically and mental-health-wise, before any of the "national media" headed up there. I didn't dig up dirt on anyone. The question I do pose is, "Why does Governor Sarah Palin claim she HAS released her medical records when, in fact, she has not done this?"
The next closely related question is, "Why has she not released her medical records?"
I advise the GOP not to dilly-dally around on this. They already made a huge error by picking her for VP in the first place, without figuring all this out in advance. The questions and mystery took valuable time and attention away from the issues and the conservative agenda. Polls show that Palin's very presence on the ticket cost McCain votes that might have won him the presidency.
Since Sarah Palin herself says she will run in 2012 "if God opens a door" for her, or appears to her, or somehow inspires her, I don't think there is any doubt she will try. Clearing up the issue about her medical records right now will save everyone a lot of time, trouble, and possible party collapse later on. And I don't think that women get a special pass on the medical records issue due to pregnancy.
If in fact Palin was pregnant, her behavior raises certain issues important to conservatives. How much does Palin really respect the right to life of the unborn if she is willing to induce miscarriage by having an amnio, or taking risky plane flights, or running marathons, lifting weights, etc. during her pregnancy? You may say that this is Palin's right to privacy. And that is the argument that the PRO ABORITON folks make--don't every ask a pregnant woman ANYTHING, and give her complete freedom to DO anything!
I'm not commenting here on whether this is right or wrong. But I will ask : Is this the actual conservative agenda?
I don't think so.
And if Palin was NOT pregnant, then that opens a whole new can of worms. There are lots of understandable reasons about why Palin may have faked her pregnancy, and I am NOT saying that she did that. Only her medical records will confirm this, one way or another. Until she releases them, we can chat about pictures and theories, but only the medical records or a DNA test will indicate the truth.
And call me old-fashioned, but I do believe that we, the electorate, are entitled to the truth from our leaders, and from people who announce they want to lead us. I believe that democracy permits us to make these demands. Our leaders acquire incredible wealth and power, albeit for just a short period--4 to 8 years--but truth is still the most important thing.
The Nixon experience taught us that Americans will forgive almost anything, as long as the leader has been truthful. But Americans seldom forgive being lied to.
Palin could actually save her political career by coming clean right now, and working for the next 4-8 years to rectify her untruths, if in fact she's done this.
Either way, we need to see her medical records before taking her seriously again.
If Palin's really going to join the club, she needs to be honest, and submit her medical records. She can do it now or later. But now is cheaper for the GOP.
That is just my opinion, based on my research and work. And I do respect your right to have yours. Written by Sarah Whalen
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I am having trouble understanding "why" this is SO important? Is it "the lie" part? Give me a break... None of these candidates was completely forthcoming in their relationships or past, and if you think they were and do not see the perpetual cover-ups, then you already made up your mind to find fault with this woman. As much as we all desire transparency, I cannot recall when or if that has ever existed in any election. If this IS true, it could be a protection/support issue for her daugther, we just do not know, do we? In reading these blogs, I sense an anger towards her that seems to get back to her pro-life stance. That's fine and the fact that we can have and do have different opinions on the issues is part of the freedom that we enjoy. I can agree that perhaps she should not have agreed to be the VP candidate and maybe that would have been the right choice if "protection" was the reason for concealing familial concerns. Perhaps Obama could explain why he remained a member of a radical church for 20 years without once voicing an objection to racist messages or better yet, seeking out a church that promoted the "Christian" values that he professes to believe; I, personally, find it troubling that the majority did not take any issue with that. Written by gyax
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I may be mistaken but isn't the reason Sarah Palin's daughter even became an issue was because the media descended on Alaska looking for dirt on the governor? Hey if everyone has to show their full, complete medial records then so be it, as long as the standard is set for "everyone" and "everyone" abides by it...but to single out Sarah Palin as withholding her records is seriously not fair. Written by Appaled
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Sarah -
I have to disagree with your assertion to Ed that the imbedded facts support you. Only the most distorted reading of reliable sources would conclude anything other than that Trig Palin is the natural child of Sarah Palin. You have offered no fact to disprove this beyond comments by people who said that they did not know she was pregnant. Those are not dispositive of anything other than your own unwillingness to acknowledge that Trig is her child.
With regard to her medical records, why is it incumbent upon any candidate to fully release their medical records? A statement by a physician indicating that a candidate is in good health and has no underlying conditions that could adversely impact his/her ability to serve should be sufficient. Anything beyond that represents an unnecessary, and even more an unseemly, demand for information that should be private.
The simple truth at this point is that, like it or not, Governor Palin is no longer a candidate for any office, and owes you and the rest of us absolutely nothing with respect to her medical records. Written by ts
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Wow! An author who writes back! Thanks, Sarah W.... and I too believe that Palin's medical records should be revealed -- but, not because of "maternity suspicions"... I need to know: how often she does Botox?... My criticism of Sarah Palin was that she flaunted her special-needs baby as a stage-prop, AND, she allowed her pregnant teenage daughter to be exploited at such a private, troublesome time... There's no such thing as Superwoman... You cannot be Governor AND Mother of Five-- without something, someone being slighted. But, I certainly do not believe the Palin-smut posted on blogs like DailyKos and the HuffingtonPost. Those people are vile and hateful extremists (not the way most of us on this blog think- and I'm Democrat)... The election is over-- We won!.. Leave Sarah Palin alone.. she's not going anywhere- not to Wash.D.C. anyway. ..............(And, Sarah W, write some more of your "funny stuff.".. OK?) Written by KjunLady
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Hello, Ed,
I have presented the facts, and the imbedded info backs me up, totally. It is a fact that a letter about medicial records, written by a doctor, is not a medical record. It is a letter, not kept in the normal course of any medical treatment.
That's just how it is. Courts understand this difference, and will only accept the actual medical record as evidence. The letter about the medical records is just hearsay, especially because it is written in response to criticism that Palin did not release her medical records.
As you correctly point out, medical records do indicate things like blood pressure, triglycerides, etc. Both McCain and Biden released just these kinds of authentic records. Obama released only a very few such records, and Palin released none at all. But what is now interesting is that she keeps insisting she HAS. And that is an untruth. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Thanks for your reply, that I find unconvincing to say the least, to my first post. First of all you did not dispute or even address my central point that you had misquoted and misrepresented your own source material. Second, I'm not sure that you alone get to define what a "medical record" is. It seems to me that a letter signed by the doctor who says she attended Gov. Palin throughout her pregnancy and her postnatal recovery can be considered just as much a "medical record" as anything else, as far as the central point of who the mother of Trig is. True, it doesn't give Palin's hourly blood pressure readings during labor, or other details of that nature, but so what? The question you seem fixated about is, "who is the mother?", and I think the doc's letter answers that.
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I truly wish the Republican Party would change - keep the fiscal responsibility stance but drop the opposition to abortion & gay rights. I think it would bring in more of the swing voters and thereby create a greater chance of having government at all levels be more fiscally responsible. Unfortunately what I am afraid of is that the Democrats will simply scare the bejesus out of so many working class taxpayers that the GOP will not have to change, but rather simply wait for the next two elections. We'll see, perhaps Obama will rise to the occasion and be "all the peoples' president" - he may just have enough substance to do that, I do hope so. As far as Palin (or Hillary, or any other political "rock star") goes, it's about ideas, not personalities. Mrs. Palin doesn't seen to be a future GOP star, she was simply a "wedge" between Hillary and Obama's supporters (or so the GOP hoped). Written by kpf
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Hello, Mike,
Wow! You've written some very intersting commentary here. Do you think it is now all about Gingrich? Funny, how he just kind of poppped right back into the TV again, isn't it?
If so, what track do you think they'll put Palin on? Just keep her as a governor, or will they try to position her for something more...Washington? Written by Sarah Whalen
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Whoa whoa whoa
The GOP help Sarah? PFFFFFFFF. Right now, they're a party of losers and will continue to be until they ditch the notion that Nixon/Rockefeller "conservatism" is the way to win since it hasn't worked anytime they've run that as the ticket (Bush was at least charismatic enough to hide it until he won a second term). I'm sure they're trying to position Gingrich as the front-runner at this very moment, Jindal better watch his back.
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Hello, Sick of the Media,
Welcome! I mean it. I am glad you are honest, and can express your honesty and your feelings about what I wrote, even if I disagree with your views.
Unfortunately, Sarah Palin has never released her medical records, even though she claims that she has, and that the media isn't looking at them, or being fair about them, or paying attention.
It's a serious issue. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Cheri,
Thanks for writing. I hope you will come back, again and again, because Bayou Buzz is a great paper!
You don't have to agree with anything people write. The important part is that people just interact and have a dialog about issues that mean something to them. That is an important aspect of life in a democracy.
But if you follow the links and read with an open mind, I think you will find that my article on Sarah Palin's refusal to release her medical records is correct in every aspect. Sarah Palin has never released her medical records. She does not dispute that she should do this. But she falsely states she has, when all she has produced is a doctor's letter ABOUT her medical records. And that is different. And not nerely as good or reliable. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Migou,
I agree! Sarah Palin needs to produce her medical records ASAP! And she should stop saying she has, when she hasn't. Thanks for writing. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, The Republicans,
I really appreciate your comments, and your understanding of why I wrote the article about Sarah Palin. It is difficult to write about a popular GOP figure, especially one so archetypal as Sarah Palin!
But I do strongly feel that if the GOP is going to invest a lot of time and money into helping Palin pursue her dreams of the presidency, or some high office, they need to resolve the issue of her medical records right away. Whether you love her or hate her, think she's delusional or a genius, this issue needs to be resolved.
She claims she's produced records, but she hasn't. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Appaled,
Thanks for writing, and for sharing your opinion. I agree that ALL politicians running for the presidency should release their medical records, and a doctor's letter ABOUT medical records is not the same thing as the medical records.
This goes for Democrats AND Republicans alike, and Independents, too.
Of course, Palin's problem is that she told some stories about her pregnancy that were very unusual, and so people noticed more about her than they did Obama. And Palin "outed" her own daughter right before the RNC to take attention away from persistent rumors aimed at Sarah Palin herself. Written by Sarah Whalen
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"I cannot believe that is okay for Barack Obama to show a "letter" as to his medical state and when Sarah Palin does it is this big of deal....gimme a break"
Again, I find it hilarious that here we are three years and 350+ days to Election Day 2012 and already we're having calls for Sarah Palin to release her records.
Tells you how great these next four years are gonna be, eh? History in the making! Written by Mike
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Hello, Wendy,
Thanks for taking the time to write, and to be so thoughtful about the issues. I agree that "post-birth tummy tucks arent' our business, usually." I wouldn't want to say "never." But medical records are medical records, and I think that even if Sarah Palin had a tummy tuck or lipo or botox, etc., all that info would really do is encourage the public to go out and imitate her. I mean, they can't keep rimless eyeglasses in stock nowadays, and a lot of her clothing is copied.
How far do we go in demanding that politicians produce their medical records? This is a really good question you've asked. And obviously, for high national office, it's been almost entirely men, and we {GAG} really don't want to hear about their hair plugs and tummy tucks and goiter corrective surgery. But women have gynecological, obstetrical records that men don't have, and so there is an issue of fairness to consider. The presence of women in elections for the presidency will bring a lot of these issues out as never before.
As a woman and a voter, I think that women politicians should be held to the same standard as men. Pregnancy, if it occurs, is just a medical fact. I think most people won't care so much about the usual details. But Palin's situation is far from the usual details. She can solve a lot by just releasing her medical records. And I think this is her best course. Written by Sarah Whalen
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I cannot believe that is okay for Barack Obama to show a "letter" as to his medical state and when Sarah Palin does it is this big of deal....gimme a break Written by Appaled
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Hello, Darklady,
Wow, you are smart, and can really see straight through to the heart of things! You'd better be careful, or people will accuse you of being me, writing to myself! haha! I get that a lot.
But I only go to PG movies, unless it is a James Bond movie.
I appreciate that you have experience with special needs individuals and can still see your way to the truth of the demand that Sarah Palin simply produce her medical records, rather than a letter about the medical records.
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Hello, Ed,
Thanks for reading my piece on Palin, and for taking the time to look up all the links. The Palins' "family physician's" letter is not a medical record of Sarah Palin--it is just a letter about medical records, some of which the family physician has, apparently, never even seen. But even if she has, the actual medical records are the best, and really the only evidence, of anything medically related to Sarah Palin, including her last pregnancy. DNA tests could also prove or disprove her claims to be Trig's biological mother.
But even if she is Trig's bio mom, one must ask then--Why all the secrecy? Why all the hiding? If she's not Trig's bio mom, we'd like to know why she faked it. We're open to whatever the truth is, as long as there's a DNA test or a medical record to substantiate it, and the public gets to see it.
We can't hold Sarah Palin to any less a standard than we've held John McCain and so many other men.
As for Palin's dramatic story of flying back to Alaska to give birth, well, then, questions arise about why she'd do that. There's the issue of endangering herself, her baby, and of course, all the passengers and crew of the plane. Women really shouldn't give birth on planes--it's quite risky even for a healthy woman! And it could be fatal for a premature baby, as Trig is said to be. A woman who did what Palin did could likely be charged for child neglect, or some other real criminal charge, if she acted in a way that caused the baby to not get immediate medical attention that let to its death.
There are a lot of deep questions raised by Palin's various descriptions of her own actions. All of them lack the ring of authenticity. But of course, that doesn't mean it did not happen exactly as she claims. But we need the medical records to confirm she's telling the truth. Written by Sarah Whalen
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How interesting. 70 days or so before "history begins" and here you want Sarah Palin to demonstrate sufficient proof that she is in fact Trig's mom. Where did all this start anyway? the Huffington Post. And people still wonder why journalism has gone to hell in a handbasket (well other than watching Bill O'Reilly, Chris Matthews, and Keith Olbermann) Written by Mike
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Hello, Tony,
Thanks for writing, and for expressing your views. I agree that releasing her medical records is something Sarah Palin clearly doesn't want to do. But she is now a GOP front runner, and the issue should not, and cannot, be left to her alone. The people who run the party need to stand up for what they know is right. John McCain has always released a large number of his personal records, and a lot of it is very, very personal, and not always the nicest stuff to read--like his attempt at suicide while a prisoner of war.
And still, McCain has the respect, and real affection, of so many Americans. To my knowledge, he's not lied about his physical and medical conditions.
Sarah Palin, who's said many times that she aspires to the presidency, has not been forthcoming with her medical records. And in her case, her veracity is now in issue. My article just gives the details of a case already much-discussed. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, ts,
I appreciate your thoughts on this matter, and on my article. There certainly is a corelation with Downs syndrom and age, and it is highest at both ends of the age spectrum. But these statistics don't prove or disprove anything about Palin releasing her medical records. She's never done this.
Pictures are interesting. In some, Palin appears to be pregnant, as she claims. In others, she does not appear to be at all pregnant. And in some, she hunches over, and it is impossible to tell.
That is why medical records are useful. A woman as old as Palin has real health risks with pregnancy, and so not only does her story sound unlikely, but there remains the real issue of the public's need to know about her various medical conditions. Such conditions are only evidenced, factually, by genuine medical records.
There's no reason for Palin to refuse to submit them. Anyone serious about running for national office should do this, including Obama.
And Palin has raised the bar higher for herself by putting her own pregnancy into public issue. She did this herself. Nobody forced her, as far as I know. Written by Sarah Whalen
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What a loser piece. Not only did Sarah (at least OUR Sarah) not bring this up, but she owes you absolutely nothing. Got it? Written by
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Hello, KjunLady,
Nice to meet you, KjunLady, and thank you for writing. I agree--some women do breeze through pregnancy, looking great, and more power to 'em! I think that is wonderful. But I disagree with your statement that "nobody entertains these rumors" about Sarah Palin and her family. In fact, if you look at the coverage, it's the thing about her most people talk about.
You ask, "WHat's the obsession?"
Well, the obsession is about the GOP's standards, truth-telling, and whether the public is entitled to see and review the medical records of the candidates for the highest office of the most powerful nation on earth. And my answer is, yes, politicians should show us who they are.
Sadly, Palin didn't do that. The strange thing is that she keeps saying she did, and then she blasts "the media" for, in her words, "not correcting [her] record." But in fact, Palin has never released her medical records, so there's no record (yet) for the media to "correct."
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Hello, Nat,
Thank you for taking the time to write and to express your feelings on Sarah Palin, a person you obviously feel a great affection for.
I do understand how you feel.
Personally, I find her quite likable, and there are many things about her that I appreciate. But it is clear that not only was she completely unprepared for national office, but her obliviousness to her own shortcomings is curious indeed. However, the biggest issue for me is her lack of forthrightness on the issue of her medical records.
She has not submitted them to the public. She should do this. McCain and Biden both did so. I don't think women politicians should be treated any differently.
And in Palin's case, because there was is so much public conjecture about her last pregnancy and the claims she's made about it, I think it's now in the public's best interest that she release her medical records, especially if she wants a future as a prominent figure in GOP politics, let alone be the candidate for 2012. Written by Sarah Whalen
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Hello, Alysia,
Thanks for writing. I agree with you that, ordinarily, Sarah Palin sould not "have to prove to anyone that Trig is" her biological child.
But I disagree with your statement that Plain has "released" her "medical records."
She hasn't done this. She asked a doctor to write a letter about her medical records. Whether she is Trig's biological mother is in issue because Palin herself put it into issue, publicly, in the media.
A letter about medical records is not a medical record.
Only Palin's unadulterated medical records and DNA tests will tell us whether she's Trig's biological mother.
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k thats the dumbest comment ever after having 4 kids im sure your not gana be near as big with the 5th and he was premie so he was tiny. look back at pics of sarah after 2 kids cuz she was tiny after havin them too. it seems to me that she just bounces back really quick. She doesnt have to prove to anyone that Trig is hers its stupid to even think she owes that to anyone.The med records released did prove that Trig was hers although to me she neva needed proof of it. Its obvious that sarah is the mother just bcuz willow and piper and Bristol like to help with Trig doesnt prove hes not Sarahs child it just proves they are working very hard as a family to help Trig in anyway they can which is very good. Special needs children need to know that they are loved by all their family and even society. I just wish the rest of the world would look at Trig and children like him in the way the deserve and the way That Sarah and Todd and their beautiful children treat these incredible ppl. Written by Alysia
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I am so surprised Steve Sab. allows you to spew your disgustingly disgusting blogs, without any semblance of requiring any ligitmate reference points to support your continuous hate, jealous, malicious,vile,below the lowest of lownest as you continue to attack this accomplished woman( a real woman, in every respect of the word). Again, she raises a family and runs a state and, in between, ran for the 2nd most important position in possible the world.Again, it must be so hard for you to realize you write trash blogs attempting to ruin other women's lives instead of spending any time acknowledging their true accomphisments, while other women really get it and do it all and love doing it and earn the respect of so many. As I said before on your previous trash article, some women run governments and others just run their mouths. I wish I could treat you with the respect I so enjoy showing to women, but you crossed the line, not me. So, here is something that I bet many people would agree with........S. Whalen is to womanhood what SDT is to the city of New Orleans. You must really be a very lonely person. Such a shame/waste. Written by Nat
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This is yellow-journalism at its best...Right up there with "The National Enquirer"... The story that would never end.... even quoting DailyKos?!!...(that's desperate). Nobody entertains these rumors...... Some women breeze through pregnancy- and still look gorgeous after many children...I think Sarah Palin is one of those women... What's with the obsession? Written by KjunLady
on 11/17/2008
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Once again you have proven that the wisdom of Albert Einstein when he said, "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
By the way, if you're going to actually research this issue, start looking the likelihood of a Down's Syndrome birth to a woman of age 44 (1 in 35) versus a woman of age 20 (1 in 1529). Gee, do you think that might actually be relevant to the discussion? Apparently not if you are primarily interested in perpetuating rumors.
While Newsweek raised the issue, they did so in the context of reporting it as a rumor that was circulating on blogs and among certain circles in Alaska. They never attempted to report it as anything beyond that. And it's interesting that you mention the Anchorage Daily News, but fail to report the substance of their article from April 22, 2008 that includes multiple quotes from her doctor regarding the pregancy/birth, including specifics such the doctor having to induce labor, the time of birth and the birth weight. And how about that quote from the president of the Alaska Chapter of the National Down Syndrome Congress, members of whom delivered a package of information to the Palin's at the hospital.
Where exactly are you doing your "research"? Hell, even the Huffington Post, which is no cheering section for Republicans, had a column shooting down this silliness that includes a picture from April 2008 showing the Governor with a TV reporter from KTVA in Anchorage where she is clearly pregnant. The assignment manager from the station has publicly stated that they knew she was pregnant.
And what you describe as Trig's birth announcement is more accurately described by the ADN as a "letter she e-mailed to relatives and close friends." One might reasonably consider that to be of a more personal nature since it was not sent to the public as a birth announcement, but when you are misrepresenting things, as is too often the case with your writing, why stop when you're on a roll?
It is nothing short of remarkable that you consider this woman incapable of fulfilling the duties of the Office of President, yet you find her not only capable, but successful in pulling off a deception that would have required the cooperation and complicity of literally hundreds, if not thousands, of people. Can you say irony?
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The story she gives does not add up. I do not believe she will ever willingly release the truth, what ever it turns out to be... Written by Tony Walker
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This is a ridiculous piece of "reporting," as anyone who bothers to follow one or two of the links embedded in your article will quickly discover. Let's start with the letter from Gov. Palin's physician. Is Trig the Governor's baby? Here's what the letter says: "She [Gov. Palin] had four term deliveries in 1989, 1990, 1994, and 2000, and one pre-term delivery at 35 weeks gestation in 2008.... At the time of her most recent pregnancy,...[r]outine prenatal testing early in the second trimester showed evidence of Trisomy 21.... This child, Trig, was born at 35 weeks in good health.... At the time of her most recent medical evaluation, [Gov. Palin] continued to be in good health and was recovering well from the birth of her last child, Trig."
Nobody who reads this letter could therefore possibly conclude, as you clearly suggest by use of the very selective quotes from it in your article, that this doctor is equivocating or being coy or secretive about who Trig's mother is.
Next you said this letter was written by: "an Alaskan doctor who, no longer treating Palin, carefully defines herself as the 'Palin family physician.'" No, the letter actually says: "I am writing this letter as Governor Palin's personal family physician." Thus, your quote, "the Palin family physician" is not accurate even on its face. Furthermore, the letter says: "I have been her family physician since 1997" so where do you get the proposition that the doctor is "no longer treating Palin"?
Next, as just another example for anybody reading your article who is at all fair-minded on the subject, you said the following about her trip home from Texas before the birth: "Even the flight crew of the Alaskan Airlines jet had no idea that Palin was pregnant and supposedly about to deliver a child. Had they known, they likely would not have allowed Palin to board the plane. 'The stage of her pregnancy was not apparent by observation,' Caroline Boren, the airline’s spokeswomen, baldly stated." However, when you follow the link to the source, here is what that article says:
"Some airlines have policies against pregnant women onboard during the last four weeks of pregnancy.... Alaska Airlines has no such rule and leaves the decision to the woman and her doctor, said spokeswoman Caroline Boren. Palin was very pleasant to the gate agents and flight attendants, as always, Boren said.
'The stage of her pregnancy was not apparent by observation. She did not show any signs of distress,' Boren said."
Where then, do you get your assertion that "Had they known, they likely would not have allowed Palin to board the plane"? It's simply not there.
Here's a piece of advice: The next time you write a hard-hitting piece of investigative journalism like this, it would be better not to embed links to your so-called source materials. Somebody might actually read them. Written by Ed
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What amazes me -- and told me right off that this woman was incompetent on so many levels -- is that none of the issues she's been so scornful of had to get as big as they did.
I don't know the answers to some of the questions she dodged, but I could have given more convincing and authentic answers! And this dodging of pregnancy information only stoked the fires of gossip. She could have resolved them immediately, but she tossed Bristol under the bus first rattle out of the box, instead. Then she waved Trig around like a rag doll wrapped in a press release.
As the sister of a mentally retarded adult, I don't see all of this as just another way for the mean ole liberals to beat up a poor mom with a special needs child. I see this as attempting to hold a politician responsible.
If we learned nothing else from this election -- and we may not have even learned this -- we hopefully learned that Sarah Palin never has to accept responsibility for anything. She just winks, smirks, and lays the blame on other people -- always pretending to be Just Folks but always coming across as Just Dishonest.
But gosh, she's a looker -- so some folks don't think it's fair to expect much more.
I just got my copy of "Nailin' Palin" in the mail from Hustler, so maybe I should just shut up, watch it and think about the good things that cum from Alaska... Written by Darklady
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Gov. Palin's flat abdomen after giving birth to Trig Palin could be possible, if she had a tummy tuck after the birth (I suppose birthing five children will do that to you.). Then, of course, she'd be recovering from both the stress of birth and the stress of having extra skin removed, having stitches in her abdomen, and being told by her doctor or surgeon that she has to take it easy for at least a month or two, to let all the scars heal, before getting active again. She'd also be on lots of pain-killers, to deal with all that post-birth/post-plastic-surgery pain.
Perhaps we should also consider Gov. Palin's physical fitness in all of this: she hunts moose, caribou, deer, elk, and wolves. She may well be at a level of fitness that allows her to shed the baby weight fairly quickly, and get back to that pre-Trig shape so well displayed during the campaign.
Is having a post-birth tummy tuck any of our business? Good question. Is she claiming that Trig is her baby to shield Bristol from the "shame" of being an unwed mother, and maybe getting pregnant so soon after having had a child? Note that the media has always referred to Bristol as "pregnant", and that the footage of the family shows Trig being carried by one or another of the Palin children, including Bristol. When shown leaving a plane, it's Gov. Palin with the portable baby carrier, not her daughter Bristol. As to Trig being a Down Syndrome baby, Gov. Palin, at age 44, is still fertile enough to have babies, but is at greater risk, because of her "maternal age", to give birth to a Down Syndrome child. Written by Wendy King
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Thanks for not holding onto this info until we ran her for president. You helped us dodge that bullet. Written by The Republicans
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How about a trade??? Palins medical recordes for obama's REAL birth certificate.
Written by Gary
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Well written and researched. Thanks! We deserve answers, I think. Written by ericmiami
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I don't understand the other two posters - the questions about Trig's real parent are completely legit! And there are enough reasons to suspect that the truth is not being told to keep asking. After all, Gov. Palin could clear every bit of this up with the release of her medical info. Why not just do it? Written by Migou
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Seriously, is this supposed to be some kind of a joke? You people really need to grow up and stop perpetuating sick gossip and disgusting lies. This first visit to Bayou Buzz is definitely my last. What a bunch of garbage! Written by Cheri
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This article is disgusting. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Written by Sick of the Media
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