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New Orleans Saints, Drew Brees ex-Saint Shockey question Goodell’s credibility

goodellNFL commissioner Roger Goodell  might have the last say, but, some players are speaking out against his credibility.

In case it slipped by you, Drew Brees is unhappy with the NFL's handling of the investigation into the Bountygate, and he's displeased that the Saints will be playing without their suspended coach Sean Payton this season.

And former Saints tight end has teed off on NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, accusing him of lying about the health effects of concussions.

 



"The no it all Rog goodell lied to every player and told us concussions will not effect us in life that a LIE!" Shockey declared on Twitter.

Brees' comments are from Peter King of SI.com, who spent an hour with Brees at the Saints camp on Sunday. Brees told King that the Saints, both the individual players and organization as a whole, believe strongly that they have been wronged by the NFL

Brees told King there's a difference between paying a player for preforming well in a game and paying a bounty for injuring  a player. and what the Saints did was the former, not the latter.

Brees said the Saints view the suspensions of his teammates and GM Mickey Loomis as motivation, "that's us against the world" mentality may prove to be much more effective as motivation than the tactics Gregg Williams employed.

 

Perhaps more provocative is this statement from Brees concerning Goodell:

"Nobody trusts him. Nobody trusts him," Brees said when asked about players' attitudes toward Goodell. "I'm not talking about a DUI, or using a gun in a strip club, which are pretty clear violations. I think there're too many times where the league has come to its decision in a case before calling a guy in, and the interview is just a façade. I think now if a guy has to come in to talk to Roger, he'll be very hesitant because he'll think the conclusion has already been reached."


Shockey, who has played for the Giants, Saints and Panthers, tweeted, "It would be great to gve the health on NFL players on a commercial during the games!! just want the fans and congress to know! FACT."

Shockey, now a bitter free agent, was released after the season by the Panthers and hasn't been invited in for a visit with any team.

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New Orleans Saints Assistant Head Coach/Linebackers Joe Vitt

Media Availability

Sunday, July 29, 2012

 

 

Johnny Patrick, is he okay?

 

“Yeah, he’s got cramps.”

 

What about Patrick Robinson?

 

“Tweaked his shoulder, they took him in for an evaluation.”

 

Earlier in practice Sedrick Ellis was with the two’s.

 

“That’s by design. We’re looking at everybody. Nobody has a scholarship here. We’re looking at a lot of people. There is going to be rotation in there. We want to get some equal reps in there in the evaluation process.”

 

Do they have to win their job?

 

“Ninety percent of the guys on this team have to win their job. And that is what we have done from day one since we’ve been here in ’06. There are no scholarships.”

 

On the d-line what do you think about this experiment with Martez Wilson?

 

“We kind of touched on that yesterday. I think pretty good because we’re going to drop our ends into coverage and he’s got some coverage ability from last year being with us in the linebacker room and being a linebacker in college. He understands coverage concepts, so far so good. He has embraced the opportunity and he’ll continue to get some more reps.”

 

What do you think about Junior Galette?

 

“I don’t know if I’ve been around a player that has come as far as Junior Galette in the last three years, physically, mentally and emotionally. He’s really become a stable and dependable player. We’re excited about where he is right now. I hope he continues to grow. I know where his intent is.”

 

What do you expect out of Devery Henderson?

 

“We expect out of him what he has given us every year. He is a great deep ball threat that can cross face safeties and can catch the ball outside the framework of his body. When the ball is up he wins most one on ones. He is probably the most legitimate deep ball threat we’ve had since we’ve been here. I thought Devery caught the long ball today well.  I think he has had a great offseason so far.” 

 

How do you approach that first preseason game?

 

“We are going to treat this first preseason game just like we would treat our Black and Gold scrimmage that we have every year. It will be a set number of plays that our veterans play and our starters play. We’ve got to take a good hard look at some of our younger players but we are going to treat it like we would the Black and Gold scrimmage.”

 

Who do you think the dime candidates are going to be?

 

“I think Johnny Patrick has done a great job. Corey White has done a great job. I think those are two real good candidates right there. We’ve worked those two guys in the spring. But we’ve got to go against some other competition. We’ll see how it shakes out.”

 

Is Cameron Jordan up there?

 

“He’s really done a great job so why not. He’s got some length, some twitch and some redirect. He’s got some characteristics that you can’t teach. He’s got some moxy about him.  We’ll take a look.”

 

Does it help him know Spagnuolo’s system?

 

“Absolutely. These guys have been in this system. They can talk it. They understand it. They know the proper angles and formation recognition, the cause and the checks, so it helps”

 

Is there any time table with Akiem Hicks and David Thomas?

 

“We’re going to start working Hicks a little bit more tomorrow. David Thomas continues to get better. We’ve got five preseason games. I’m not going to rush David along. He’s proven to be a very valuable member of our offense. Make sure is 100%. Hoping to get Hicks’ helmet on tomorrow and do some conditioning. You can’t go non-padded for three days and then try to get him in.”

 

Can you talk about the Marques Clark story?

 

“It’s a guy that Drew Brees really likes. It’s a guy that he threw to in the summer time. It’s a guy that has been out of college for a while. But when you take a look at our system and the quality of the receivers that we have and what we like from them. We like big guys with a lot of length that can put their foot in the ground and cross face corners. He’s doing okay.”

 

Cameron Jordan has says he has sweet feet, can you talk about the versatility?

 

“That is his description that he has sweet feet.  That’s not my description.  He’s got a long way to go with coverage. We’ll see how versatile he is when the game starts. He doesn’t have sweet feet.”

 

Do you think Cameron Jordan can play inside?

 

“I think he can. I think what he has really done a good job of is becoming a pretty good edge rusher on tackles. I think the second year in the National Football League has given him some maturity. So we will see.”

 

Last year Cameron Jordan came in a couple of days late. He is on time now. Have you seen much improvement?

 

“He is ten pounds lighter than he was. He has had a great offseason. He has been through the gauntlet one time. He’s got some real good athleticism. He’s gotten better.”

 

 Date: Sunday, July 29, 2012, 10:13 PM

New Orleans Saints Tackle William Roaf

Conference Call With New Orleans Media

Saturday, July 28, 2012

 

Are you nervous about Saturday?

“I’m working on my speech, getting a few butterflies, but looking forward to having a good week.”

Can you talk about your decision to have your father as a presenter?

“That was a no-brainer. He came to pretty much every home game down in New Orleans or Kansas City, drove to most of them. He was one of the guys who played in the yard with us. He was always there to help anybody on our teams that needed advice in high school or before I made it to college.”

Bobby Hebert is quick to say that in all respect to Drew Brees, you are the greatest Saint. Can you talk about what your time meant here, playing at Louisiana Tech and then playing for the Saints before moving on to the Chiefs?

“Growing up in Arkansas and moving on to Louisiana Tech and the Saints drafting me close to home. They broke up the Dome Patrol. I would have loved for Bobby Hebert to stay, but he had had some differences with the team. I remember in college when all that stuff was going on with Bobby Hebert and his contract and seeing all the stuff that happens in pro football, when I had gotten there, Bobby had left and I came in Rickey’s (Jackson) last year, Sam Mills, Jim Wilks and Frank Warren, all those old school guys. Wayne Martin was still playing along with Jim Dombrowski, Dombro. I came in with a lot of vets of 12 or 13 years. I tried to pick up as much as I can. I don’t know if I agree with Bobby, I think Drew Brees is setting the bar real high. I would have to argue with Drew Brees that he’s the best Saints player to play though, even though he’s playing still.”

Coming out to Pine Bluff high school you weren’t highly recruited and ended up at Louisiana Tech, can you talk about how you picked football over basketball?

“When I went into my senior year (of high school), I went to basketball camp at UCA (University of Central Arkansas) the year (Scottie) Pippen had come out. Before I played football my senior year, I had a couple of basketball scholarships (offers). It was kind of funny how I got the football scholarship. Jerry Baldwin was coaching at Louisiana Tech and he came there from Natchez Mississippi where Walter Johnson decided to play at Tech. He played in the league for some years for the Houston Oilers. He was at Tech, came to Pine Bluff, we had two players that were all-state. They saw me on film. I made all-conference and all-super team in 1987. That’s how I got a scholarship offer. I just went ahead and took the scholarship offer before basketball season. I was 6-5, I just didn’t think I was going to be tall enough to keep playing. I was pretty athletic, but I decided to go with the football scholarship.”

Who was the toughest defensive end to defend and who was the hardest hitter you faced?

“Playing as long as I did, I would say Reggie (White), a guy that had the power and could get in my body a little bit. Me and Chuck (Smith) tangled a lot. It wouldn’t be the guys who were the household names. It would be the guys who played real well against you. Maybe not Hall of Fame type guys. Chuck Smith, Mike Rucker from Carolina who will be at the Hall of Fame ceremony. We used to go at it. He was very strong and had good leverage. Sean Jones, guys who had real long arms and could use their leverage on you, Tim Harris. The guys who gave me some problems wouldn’t be the household, Pro Football Hall of Fame type of guy. Ken Harvey, another guy with the Redskins. I’m thinking of games I had that were bad, where guys had good games against me. Mike Mamula when he played for the Eagles when he first got in the league. He was a hell of a player and we played in the Superdome back when Jim Everett when was still playing and he was still young and he was a good pass rusher too.”

Talking to you in Oxnard last year and when you watch the current Saints team from afar and that they seem to have a proven method that works, do you think they will fare pretty well even without Sean Payton?

“Yes, I think they’re going to fare well. The key was getting Drew (Brees) signed back. They have their leader signed back. They have it on both sides of the ball. I know they lost one of the leaders on defense in (Jonathan) Vilma, one of the top guys, but you have a bunch of veteran guys on defense. I know Will (Smith) will miss a few games and you still got (Scott) Shanle and some vets. I think if you look at it, you have more vets on the offensive side of the ball than the defensive side of the ball. You have a lot of vets on that team and I think they’ll be there. I think look out for the kid from Alabama to really do it this year, Mark Ingram. You have Pierre (Thomas), you have (Lance) Moore. You have Jimmy Graham who had a breakout year last year. With all the weapons they have, they have a lot of veterans on the defensive and offensive side of the ball.”

What’s your fondest memory playing for the Saints?

“Other than how much fun I had in getting drafted close to home and being the guy you traded Pat Swilling for, the 2000 season was fun, we went 10-6 and won the playoff game and we got the monkey off our back. Other than that, just me being able to be close to home and having so much fun. That’s my fondest memory, all the fun I had. It would be the year (2000), the offensive line did such a good job and we had no injuries and despite a lot at the skill positions, we were still able to get that playoff win.”

When you look back on your career and what’s in front on Saturday, with enshrinement, are you pinching yourself?

“I think I will. I’m not there yet. I think when you get on that stage and you’re trying to do your speech, I look at it now. I know it’s getting close. I wouldn’t say it’s a dream come true because I never dreamt I’d be a Hall of Famer, but everything progressed one step at a time. You played high school as a little kid. You were so happy to get a scholarship offer to college for a couple years. Then you think if I keep doing it I’ll end up in the NFL and then when you’re in the NFL, I’m looking like I’m starting to put a few Pro Bowls together and made All-Pro and you keep playing ball and you have a chance to be a Hall of Famer. You maybe start thinking about it your fourth or fifth year in the league, like when I played in Kansas City and was able to play coming off the knee injury and that helps me getting in early on an early ballot. I look back over the career and was very fortunate in all I did, especially after the knee injury. It worked out for me to be with an elite group of athletes. It’s really special. I think my jacket is going to be 273. All those guys who played sports, including football and all the people playing now, there’s not even 300 guys in that group of guys that are in that hall. It’s a very, very select group that I’m going to be enshrined with in that museum with those guys. It’s a real, real big honor.”

What are you doing now? We know you were doing some coaching in Santa Monica Junior College.

“I was coaching a few years ago. My kids are starting to graduate…I have a daughter who turns 17 who’s going to be a senior in Denver and I have another daughter who’s 15 and my two little kids in New Orleans, so I’m just making sure I spend more time with them. They’re finishing up school. I have some property out here in California that’s going pretty good and an apartment building in Kansas City. I’m spending more time with my kids, because I didn’t get to spend as much time as I wanted to when I was playing football.”

What did Petey Perot mean to your development?

“That was key for me, being athletic at the time. I was a good athlete. He was going to make sure regardless of who it was, he was going to make sure he got the most of you. He really stayed on me and made sure I was going to get the most out of my ability. He was really instrumental in using the fundamentals of using my feet, my hands, good balance and technique. He was really instrumental in making sure I was going to finish the play and the blocks. When I got to the pros, it was hard and some of the fundamental defenses were hard, but as far as me being ready to play football, I was ready to play in the league after having played at tech for five years.”

 

You have to be thrilled about this, right?

“I am so thrilled. I am so thrilled that the team is coming to play and all of the players are going to be there at the Hall of Fame ceremony. I am excited because a lot of fans should be there and will be a part of it too.”

 

How much did going against Ricky Jackson in practice help you become a better player?

“It helps you a lot, practicing against Ricky and all of those vets. I looked up to those guys. I practiced with Ricky (Jackson) and Wayne Martin and you had get down and try to cut off. Then you had Jim Wilks, Frank Warren, Sam Mills and Vaughn Johnson in his last year. We went against an outstanding defense and we had to practice against those guys all the time.”

 

When did you feel that you could be a Hall of Famer?

“I would say after I had played for three or four years. I wouldn’t say it was a game or a moment. I got off to a real good start. I had a real good rookie year and played pretty good against Reggie White my rookie season. I had met Reggie White at a benefit basketball game in Little Rock and he had a bunch of athletes from Arkansas play in it. That was going in to his first year in Green Bay. Reggie White said some very good things about me after I played him my rookie year. It was after I had put a string of a few Pro Bowls together, maybe three or four, and I said to myself ‘if I can continue to do this, I might have a chance to be a Hall of Famer.’ I would say after the 1996 season or around that time.”

 

What motivated you to come back and return to a Pro Bowl level after you suffered a season-ending injury?

“I didn’t want to end my career like that. I don’t think that if I had come back off the knee injury and had played in Kansas City I would be in the Hall of Fame now. If you look at Richmond Webb’s numbers in Miami, I think Richmond Webb went to seven Pro Bowls and had some real good years blocking for Dan Marino, he hasn’t made a finalists list yet. I think our credentials to this point, when I left New Orleans, I think he made the all-decade team, but I think they were pretty similar. I just wanted to come back and really establish myself as one of the best tackles again. It was more when I got hurt and left, I still had some football left in me. Going to Kansas City and getting another chance gave me a spark. Like in 1997, I had a tough year. I had the radio show with Buddy D and the fans got on me. I needed to be motivated so I went to Duke after that in 1998, 1999, and 2000 and made sure I was in pretty good shape. In 2001, I went through the injury and I paid for myself to go back to Duke before training camp. Sometimes you go through adversity and it was a good thing. I needed that to get me motivated to want to play some more football. I think that is the reason I got in the Hall so early, because I did play on those real good lines in Kansas City.”

 

Even with Drew Brees, can you reflect on being referred to as the best Saints player in team history?

“I don’t understand that. Drew Brees is one of those guys that had a lot to prove. He has always proved stuff. When I was in Kansas City, we played against Drew twice a year. I think, at that time, the AFC West was the toughest division in football. You had Drew and the Chargers who were real good, the Denver Broncos who were still playing good. You had us in Kansas City with Priest Holmes and Trent Green. The Raiders weren’t as good, but we were pretty good football teams. Drew had that injury before he came to New Orleans. I don’t think Drew had much attention, except for the Dolphins, before going with the Saints. Drew has had a lot to prove. Since he got there in 2006, how many times has that team been to the playoffs? He has a Super Bowl ring on his resume. Drew is one of those types of guys who is always going to be motivated to play great football and he is self-motivated where I was one of those guys who was motivated. When you are losing a lot, it takes a little bit out of you and you are not as hungry sometimes. I was probably one of those guys who needed to go through some adversity or have something happen to me to get me back on track. I say Drew, already, Drew is the best football player to put the jersey on.”

 

How much gratification was it that after suffering through those losses, Jim Haslett came in and helped make Saints history at that point?

“That was a very special year. Jim Haslett, Randy Mueller, and Mickey Loomis came in and we brought in some new guys. We had some old guys that had been there for a while. It was special because we did it up front on both sides of the ball. We lose Jeff Blake and (Aaron) Brooks comes in. We lose Joe Horn during a playoff game and Willie Jackson steps up. You lose Ricky Williams and we had running back by committee. Mike McCarthy was the (offensive) coordinator then. The fact that we were able to win that playoff game, and we battled through all of those injuries. The fact that we were able to battle through all of that adversity and we stayed healthy on the offensive really helped us that year. If we could have kept those guys together for a few years, maybe things would have been different. After that, things kind of went sour in 2001.”

 

Can you talk about being passed over in your first year of eligibility to the Hall of Fame?

“There some tough guys on the list. You had Marshal (Faulk) and Deion (Sanders). You had Shannon (Sharpe) who had been sitting there for three years. I think I was the next guy that was going to get in. And Ed Sabol took a player spot. They wanted to get Ed in there. He had been doing those films for a long time. I think I was the next guy. They had a lot of meetings. I think the met for seven hours and I think that is what it came down to. I think it came down to me and Shannon Sharpe and Ed was going to go in. It is tough and I didn’t get in on the first ballot. Once you are in, you are in. I know it is great to be a first ballot, it would be great for me to be on the top 100 team they have on NFL network but the bottom line is that once you are a Hall of Famer and you are in the museum, in 50 or 100 years nobody is going to know which ballot you were chosen. They are just going to know you are a Hall of Famer. I didn’t get on the first ballot but I am number 273 in the Hall of Fame. It would have been nice but I made it on the second ballot. I don’t have that much to be upset about.”

 

After entering the league, how long did it take you to feel comfortable?

“I knew I could be there. After my rookie year, I made All-Pro and we didn’t give up more than 15 or 20 sacks when Jim Everett came up from the Rams. My second and third year, I was pretty comfortable. I played real good against Derrick Thomas. I had to learn that you have to be ready to play every week. As far as practicing, that rookie year was real tough for me just reading blitzes and understanding stuff. As far as me being real comfortable in the league, in 1994 and 1995 I played real well. It was probably after I had been in the league about five years. I didn’t miss a down the first four years, we didn’t trust the seventh lineman. You were playing pretty much the whole game. If you are have been starting for four or five years in the league, you pretty much get used to it and get used to knowing what you have to do as far as playing football. It was funny because I got to Kansas City and John Tait is struggling at left tackle and Will Shields and those guys had their routines. Once you go through some (knee) scopes and you can’t practice during the week, you kind of get used to being able to play without having to practice sometimes. I would tell them to leave John alone and let him figure it out because they would get on him a little bit or talk to him when he came to the sideline. I understood that if I was in shape and the right weight and if I had gotten my reps that week, you might get out of the game and have some plays and situations that you might not want to. You just have to let it go. You can’t really dwell on it. You have to move on to the next play or whatever. That is why it is good to have a mix of veterans and young guys so those veterans can teach those younger guys how to deal with certain situations in the course of a game. It is like when I was a rookie and was playing against Kevin Greene, that is another real good football player, and we were 5-0 and we went to Pittsburgh. I think that was the first game I gave up a sack. He was winking at me and patting me on the butt and playing games with me. He was a vet and I was a rookie. Even though I was a rookie and had that strength and all that ability, he knew how to fool with you and how to mess with you because you are out there playing with grown men and they know how to play football. They know little stuff that will get to you. It is just like when I played against (Dwight) Freeney. He was real good but he was a young guy. It was in the playoffs, in Kansas City. He was an excellent football player but you are looking at a guy who doesn’t have any hair on his face. He was a little kid. You are thinking that he is a good football player but I am 33 years old and he is 22. He is a good football player but he is playing with a seasoned vet in the league. There is a difference there when you are dealing with guys that are vets and guys that haven’t figured out the game and understand the game yet.”

 

Have you felt uncomfortable against anyone you have played?

“I felt uncomfortable in 1997 when Chuck (Smith) had that big game against me. I wasn’t comfortable. I took some stuff for granted and I probably didn’t prepare that offseason and that year as well. I wasn’t in the right state to play or shape that I needed to be in. I had a tough year. I had a tough game. When we went to Atlanta, it was pretty good. That was the year that I didn’t do what I needed to do to be ready to play football all season and it caught up with me. Like I said, after that I went to Duke and I told myself that I am going to make sure I am ready to play football when I step on that field. If you are hurt, you are hurt and can’t play. If I am going to step on the field and play football, I want to be in shape, I am going to have my rest, I am going to be ready to play football. I would say that game against Chuck in 1997. I can name a few games where a guy had a sack or two or played pretty good but it is not too many games. I don’t think, other than Tampa Bay at the very end of the game, Simeon (Rice) got me and stripped the ball. You know how they hit the quarterback and strip the ball out of his hand. I don’t think that happened to me but maybe one time at the end of the game in my career. I wasn’t going to let nobody just go around me and hit the quarterback and knock the ball out of his hands and run it in or let somebody else pick it. That just didn’t happen a lot when I played. That 1997 game against Chuck was the worst game of my career. It was a learning experience. I never wanted to feel like that after a football game again, ever.”

 

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Ed Staton

Ed Staton is a former sports writer for the Times Picayune and New Orleans States Item.  He also served as the New Orleans Saints Information Director.  He has won 43 media awards in writing, design and photography.  

 

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