Isn’t it interesting that US Senator David Vitter is quick to blast those who question his own ethics yet he is off and running—strongly insinuating that one of the most respected Louisiana Republicans—former Governor Dave Treen has attempted to engage in a quid pro quo deal with Vitter’s rival US Senator Mary Landrieu.
It was reported last week that David Vitter has been pushing the judgeship of David Dugas but Mary Landrieu has stood in the way of that confirmation.According to the accounts, Dave Treen had contacted Vitter and Landrieu about his son-in-law, Lloyd Lunsford, filling the Baton Rouge federal position.Landrieu is against the Dugas confirmation citing alleged post-Katrina decisions and prefers the Treen recommendation.Alternatively, Landrieu could wait for President-elect Barack Obama to fill the seat.
According to the WWL website, “Vitter noted that Treen crossed party lines to endorse Landrieu before she was re-elected earlier this month.
"David Dugas is a highly qualified candidate," Vitter said in telephone interview. "This last little cynical chapter is adding insult to injury."
Treen said he based his endorsement of Landrieu on her experience and the long-standing ties between their families. Lunsford and Landrieu have been "good friends for many years," Treen added.
"There was absolutely not a quid pro quo," he said of his endorsement. “
Mary Landrieu, in a statement released returned fire against Vitter for his criticisms.
"There remain a number of qualified Republicans and Democrats the president could have considered instead with my full support, and Lloyd Lunsford is one of them," Landrieu said. "But rather than reach across the aisle and attempt to work together, President Bush and Senator Vitter found they could score more cheap political points by keeping this bench empty and standing by a nomination that had no chance of confirmation."
Landrieu said she will be speaking with many local leaders and constituents and consulting with Obama regarding his nominations.
"I deeply value the counsel of Governor Treen and the many other officials of both parties that my colleague's partisan zeal all too routinely leads him to ignore and disrespect," Landrieu said.
How ironic and hypocritical.Previously, David Vitter was accused of engaging in sexual activities for which he touted some sort of mea culpa.However, he has never once described his misdeeds in any detail whatsoever.In fact, in reality, we do not even know for what acts he has apologized.He has accused local media of questioning his behavior and of reporting that he was cavorting with prostitutes.In return, Vitter has blasted the media for producing false stories and for not merely accepting his apology.Even worse, during the recent criminal trial of the Washington DC Madam, he decided to take the Fifth Amendment and then has been able to get high rollers to pay off much of his legal fees associated with escaping testifying.
When it came time for him to tell the truth under oath, this US Senator hid and ran.So, now that the woman who could have brought witness to Vitter’s own behavior has committed suicide after being convicted for various crimes associated with running a prostitution ring, Vitter appears to feel free to quickly go on the attack and smear the good reputation of others.He has shied away from the news media when they want to focus upon his own credibility, but, seeks the media on “red meat issues” whenever he wants to score political points, probably so he can get re-elected.
As an attorney, Vitter should not be suggesting or insinuating any deception by a private person (David Treen).Vitter’s statements have put Treen in bad light and I believe questioning his honesty and credibility are actions which legitimately allow for legal recourse.As a US Senator, he should not be accusing Treen of a quid pro quo unless the “Great Accuser” has the facts—the same quality of facts he has demanded the media produce concerning his own prior behaviors.
Further, Vitter’s own actions puts him in no position to criticize others.I believe he is a bundle of deception and cowardice.He decided to take the Fifth Amendment to protect himself in a criminal proceeding, yet, his recent actions smacks of hypocrisy.He has reportedly been authoring, supporting or opposing federal criminal legislation which requires witnesses.Law enforcers cannot prosecute violations of statutes if the witnesses fail to testify under oath, something Vitter was unwilling to do.
Further, Vitter is in no position recommend federal judges.Our criminal justice system is predicated upon people risking their lives so the truth be told.Just the fact that Vitter has the power to recommend judges is a travesty.Vitter comes forward with accusations when he believes it is politically expedient, not when his own hide is on the line.Hopefully Louisiana can see through a sham of a man and that the Republican Party will shed itself of this embarrasing albatross when they offer their version of a person of decency during the next US Senate race.It is time for the Republican Party to stand strong and live the values it says it embraces.Alternatively, in connection with the Treen affair, it is time for David Vitter to put up his own facts which he never does so we all can see exactly what proof he has of any political misdeeds of a former Governor and a current US Senator.We would expect no less from a man of real honor.
Taxes................ Well.................. Get ready, because they are going to skyrocket................ Written by
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I hear what you are saying Sid... and while I agree with your stated positions I still do not see the necessity of labeling someone who shares those viewpoints as a "conservative." I would call that someone who is "fiscally responsible." Someone who is wise in matters of money doesn't necessarily also include any stance on gay rights, abortion, flag burning, or any other issues typically considered "conservative." Having only two parties leads to polarizing stances on issues that are not necessarily related. Our Democracy may be over two hundred years old, but intellectually, it is still in in infancy. We would be better served by single interest political groups... better served but perhaps not as easliy controlled..... Written by kpf
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Reset the tax formula.... In as far as Fed/State cost share initiatives... 50/50.... That should have a HUGE impact on what states decide to pursue...... And how they decide to squander tax dollars..... Written by
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True conservatives feel that we should keep more of our money and government needs to work wihin budgets. Tax increases should be a last resort. Throwing money at a problem doesn't work..like our education problems. Check the voting records for tax increases. Written by Sid
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Happy Thanksgiving Sid. I guess we all have our different political stances that matter to us, so what a "true conservative" means, I'm not sure. If you mean taking stances identical to the Republican Party I must disagree, as I would disagree with defining a "true liberal" as someone who agrees with each and every position taken by the Democratic Party. As examples: there are conservatives who are for gun control, liberals who are against abortion. Many of these social issues cloud over the core beliefs of what makes one liberal or conservative - at least as I understand and therefore define it. Different people would surely define this differently then I would; nevertheless I am somewhat suspicious of those who agree with each and every position taken by either political party - while it could be "coincidence" they have EXACTLY the same opinions as that party on every issue, I suspect it often more unthinking agreement with the party that happens to best represents their core beliefs. Written by kpf
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Jay is a good man but not what would be considered a true conservative. Need to check into his voting records closely. Written by Sid
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They are both clean-cut, well-spoken pretty-boy lawyers. What else could one want in a politician? Courage to stand up for what's right? Putting the people's interests ahead of their own? I don't think they're made like that anymore... sorry.....for all of us. Written by kpf
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Yeah? What will EITHER of them accomplish for the common citizenry of Louisiana? What earth shattering ideas do they possess to make good a commonality? What genius does either one of this people have when it comes to knowing what should be pursued? Written by
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Jay Dardenne would easily beat David Vitter. Written by David Quidd
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Jay Dardenne will challenge Vitter. He has begun to put his money together. Written by Fan
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"hope Steve keeps being perfect and he never ever needs forgiveness" LOL! Just don't run for political office, Stephen. Written by KjunLady
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What about that Donald Duck speech impediment of David Vitter's? How did he get so far sounding like Buddy Hacket? Written by
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Steve has had a burr in saddle over Vitter for awhile.
hope Steve keeps being perfect and he never ever needs forgiveness. because the Man above says-"forgive us our sins, AS we forgive others.."
as far as Treen-Landrieu deal--DO FRICKIN RESEARCH BEFORE YOU RUSH TO BE THE FIRST TO MOUTH OFF because of your blind hatred of the junior senator Written by G. Man
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I hope you enjoy the holiday as well cajun lass. About Bob Livingston... how he exemplifies political corruption of our politicians to me. Not his morality, rather his being bought by entrenched special interests. BL promised to cut ALL funding for the National Endowment for the Arts after becoming the Appropriations Committee Chairman, but soon after being appointed to this position he made a speech - expecting adoring looks of praise from his audience - that HIS DISTRICT had more NEA funds allocated than any other. (well, no s#!t Bob... duh... "whoda thunk-it".... wow). Written by kpf
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So what is it Gerald, are you pissed at Vitter because he went to Harvard and Tulane instead of LSU? Written by
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Big Bad barney Frank only ran a male prostitute ring out of the basement of his house...or his partner did and he didn't even know it was going on. Yea right he didn't know, so if Vitter is to have stones cast upon him do you think barny would pick up the first rock. Probably would, you can't trust those liberal democrats, they would throw their own under the bus. Written by Sid
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Excellent article Stephen: Vitter continues to be an embarrassment to the citizens of Louisiana. These comments were especially spot on.
"Further, Vitter’s own actions puts him in no position to criticize others. I believe he is a bundle of deception and cowardice. He decided to take the Fifth Amendment to protect himself in a criminal proceeding, yet, his recent actions smacks of hypocrisy."
"Just the fact that Vitter has the power to recommend judges is a travesty."
Hopefully Louisiana can see through a sham of a man and that the Republican Party will shed itself of this embarrasing albatross when they offer their version of a person of decency during the next US Senate race. It is time for the Republican Party to stand strong and live the values it says it embraces." Written by Gerald Ingram
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When it comes time to consider change or the lack thereof in Louisiana one must first understand the political organization chart and who runs things. In Louisiana. First there is LSU. Then there are a couple of really powerful “homegrown” corporations that are generally run by LSU graduates, or members of “the old guard” and their decedents…… What the old guards composition is can only be summed up in percentages….. They range from Jean Lafitte types of characters at one end of the spectrum to Huey Long type of personalities at the other end with an occasional Boudreaux or Thibodaux in the mix for flavor…… Then come the Louisiana State Agencies who’s upper hierarchy is composed of LSU graduates that in most instances are kin to the CEO’s of the powerful corporations or members of “the old guard”. And finally Louisiana’s political organizational efforts are followed by the governor’s office, (which the staff of Louisiana State agencies elected) and then comes the average person which of course includes the poor people as well…. And when it comes to demographics, Louisiana is made up of 4 to 7 fiefdoms listed in no particular order of power or importance because this can change with the wind…. New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Acadiana, The Atchafalourche Region, Cenla, and the outer regions of Lake Charles and Shreveport who’s liquid boundaries are constantly in a state of flux expanding and contracting…… That’s how it works….. 2 traits all of these entities vying for power share…….. Always get the upper hand at the common citizen’s expense, and never let a common citizen elevate to a higher level unless it can prove its ability to extract additional toll at the common citizens expense for the enriching of the higher echelons in power… That is Louisiana……. And its power landscape… Politics is only secondary after the primary Machiavellian concerns have been satisfied… Written by
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I'll say it again, if David Vitter was the only one in the madam's book let's hang him. But I'll guarantee that he wasn't and the only reason his name came out was a vendatta against him. I don't agree with what he did but people don't be fooled into thinking that that book was full of other Rebuplicans and a whole bunch of Democrats. Let's see the book and then decide what the hell is going on.
At least Vitter didn't kill anybody like Kennedy, the Boston one. Where is the outrage there????
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"(did Barney Frank resign? didn't Bob Livingston resign? this is not the "political party attribute" you claim it to be, KL)."... Right again, kpf - horny politicians abound in both parties...... and you can throw John Edwards at the top of that heap of sleaze... <big sigh>.. I was Soo disappointed in Bob Livingston-- (who woulda thunk?).. But, Barney Frank??- he didn't lie to anyone.. and he didn't cheat on anyone.. Did he?...He's gay - not immoral... (uh oh-- I hear the Bible-thumpers coming!).. Happy Thanksgiving, kpf, to you and yours-- and the same to all you whacko bloggers out there*** Written by KjunLady
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Huey P. Newton, founder of the Black Panthers… A Monroe, Louisiana product….. andDerrick Todd Lee……. A St. Francisville, Louisiana product. John Allen ‘Muhhamad’ Williams, a New Orleans product and his ‘disciple’ John Lee Malvo, a.k.a. Malik Malvo that was imported from Kingston, Jamaica….. The current contemplated bailout of at least 1 along with the other 2 in the “Big 3”? 25 billion and expected to actually be 50 billion or higher…. Cost of New Orleans after Katrina as a result of a ‘literal bailout’? 50 billion +? Very easily……. (Who really knows what the actual numbers are, they are all so screwed up….. ) “Big 3” disappearing? It will be felt nationwide……. For decades to come….. Had New Orleans not been rebuilt? In nationwide economic terms It wouldn’t even have been noticed …. And when it came time to be noticed, bout the only affect it did have on a nationwide level was the massive media coverage and its domination of news time on CNN.. But a lot of folks in Louisiana are saying no to the “Big 3 bailout”….. Including our prominent politicians….. What a bunch of selfish individuals….. But it is not entirely unbiased when I write that the effects of Katrina were not really noticeable outside of Louisiana……. Speaking of New Orleans, and Louisiana economic products…. After Katrina, general crime levels as well as violent crime levels in Dallas, Houston, Atlanta and various other cities and towns around the nation where our ‘products’ landed ‘spiked’ significantly…….. So I suppose we did have a viable export product…. So I would wonder, what is really at the crux of Louisiana’s ability to produce such outstanding and productive products to be enjoyed by the masses? Written by
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I guess my point is: "to be ethical one must be consistent." Our law is only just when it is color-blind. No "white man's justice" with different penalties for the "Redman" (or black or whatever). What would truly be refreshing is to see politicians - and their party's supporters - apply consistent ethical expectations to members of THEIR party- and be consistent with their condemnation as well. Instead - what I see- is hypocrisy on both sides. Some politicians may resign (no doubt to spare their family indignities); others hang on tooth and nail to keep their positions (self-centered?). While politicians in both parties do this, their supporters in both parties see fault only in the opposition (did Barney Frank resign? didn't Bob Livingston resign? this is not the "political party attribute" you claim it to be, KL). This inability to be truthful and consistent is the main reason I desire "limited government." It's not so much that I don't think government could not be helpful; it is that people are too dishonest to be trusted to govern. "Limited government", "checks and balances", "follow the Constitution", these things are based on that same distrust towards... well.. ourselves actually. It is a distrust we bend over backwards to earn, IMHO. Written by kpf
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" The 'footsie' Senator from Michigan "..Whoops..or, was it Minnesota?..(I always say- Check ya facts-- then, check 'em twice.) Sid, I'm so proud of you- opening your mind to a "fresh Conservative" candidate for LA's Senate . (turns my stomach that Diaper-Dave "pleaded the 5th" -- WataWimp!) Written by KjunLady
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Despite his shortcomings with morality, Vitter has done an admirable job as a conservative senator. Now the big question is if he cheats on his wife will he cheat on us? Probably so, but has he truely asked his wife for forgiveness? I don't know nor do I care, but personally I'll look at his opposition next time around and vote for the best candidate. As far as Treen, who freaking cares. And as far as Landrieu...a moderate, c'mon. Written by Sid
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kpf says, "Conversely they only act "shocked" at behaviors (often the "exact same" behaviors) when it is a member of the opposition party who exhibits such."... Yes, Kp-- you are so right. However, Bill Clinton was almost impeached for his nasty-cigar antics. Governor Eliot Spitzer stepped-down for his prostitution improprieties. The Florida Congressman resigned after internet sexual hunger for young boys was revealed. The "footsie" Senator from Michigan is still fighting after his Airport bathroom liaison..... And, "Diaper-Dave" Vitter is walking free--... admist shame: hooker testimonies, a dead Madame, a scorned, sourpuss wife. Vitter is enshrouded in scandal- The Republicans must come up with a replacement. Written by KjunLady
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KL, my point is that people will support a politician who champions their cause(s) no matter how despicable their behavior may be. Conversely they only act "shocked" at behaviors (often the "exact same" behaviors) when it is a member of the opposition party who exhibits such. No better case in point than when Gloria Steinem dismissed Bill Clinton's behavior on Face the Nation with her "one free grope" comment. Ideally the parties would take the lead in eliminating the despicable from their own ranks. In reality it's all about numbers and power. Morality doesn't really enter the picture except in rhetoric. I'm not advocating this belief, simply making an observation. Written by kpf
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Mr. Vitter once again makes poor excuses for grossly generalized statements in order to avoid a reality based dialogue with anyone, anytime, about anything. To make accusations about Mr. Treen and others concerning a far-fetched nomination for a Federal Judgeship by a lame duck President represents the height of arrogant self absorption. Senator Vitter, as far as I can see, has precious little influence in Washington which could be used to the benefit of Louisiana. Add to this the obvious fact that our Governor is far more interested in living up to his billing as the future of the Republican party than in doing all that is possible to help the folks in Louisiana dig out of a fathomless pit of delta rot, and sadly the clearest picture emergent is that of a forlorn and forgotten people digging themselves out of the hurricane mud using only their hands and pitifully broken tools. The good people of this state deserve much much more. May God bless them. Written by TRowe
on 11/24/2008
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Simone -
Treen is perfectly free to do whatever he wishes, and welcome to engage in a quid pro quo arrangement with Sen. Landrieu. That happens all the time in politics, and contrary to Steve's hyperventilating over this whole thing, does not as a general rule constitute misconduct. It appears to me that Sen. Vitter's argument is more one of Gov. Treen not supporting Republican candidates and nominations when, in this case, he has a clearly personal interest in seeing a family member appointed to the bench rather than a professional interest in seeing the best qualified person on the bench. My issue with Steve is that he makes no attempt to paint a complete picture of the situation, and chooses to provide only those facts he feels sufficient so that he can fire another broadside at Vitter. Wouldn't it change your view of the situation if you knew that Gov. Treen had claimed in a letter to the President that Sen. Vitter would support the withdrawal of the current nominee and the nomination of Treen's son-in-law when it was not true? Wouldn't it also change your view if you knew that the current nominee was a sitting US Attorney with the highest possible rating from the ABA, and that he was being denied an up or down vote because he had been blue slipped by Sen. Landrieu because she was mad he wouldn't intervene in a case that could not and did not prevail on its merits? On balance, it's not that hard to see why one could assume the quid pro quo. And make no mistake, this is little more than Steve's latest excuse to pitch a hissyfit over the fact that Vitter is still a senator. Must be at least number 136. Written by ts
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As usual Stephen we once again see you are bias against Republicans! As for Landreau being a modorate or centrist, she is this way only one year out of five. The other five she follows the likes of Kennedy, Schumer and Reid as ulta-liberal dems. Landreau wants to wait until Barack Hussein Obama is in office and he has already stated he will pack the courts with activist Judges, meaning Judges that will circumvent our Constitution possibly using foreign law or just making his/her law. I think Treen steped out of place by supporting Landreau publicly! He should have waited particularly during this heated contest. Sheriff Jack Strain should have done the same. Strain won't get another sales tax increase in the foreseeable future. What continues to amaze me is that dems call for any Republican to resign but when one of their our is even indicted they conveniently forget it and they keep the committee[s] they chair. Stephen, you are once again trying to deny Vitter his right to free speach! What Vitter said and Landreau said during the campaign is not reverent nor is what each are saying now. I do find Landreau's endorsement a little shady. Written by Ben
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Let me chime in here. As I read this column, the topic is why is Vitter claiming a quid pro quo between Landrieu and Treen. TS, your analysis does not address this at all. Whether your allegations are true about Treen communicating with Bush claiming he had Vitter's support or whether Landrieu wrongfully intervened, that is irrelevant. Vitter is claiming the two people engaged in a quid pro quo and that is a very strong allegation. Don't you think he should be asked to prove it? How do your allegations prove a quid pro quo and even if they do, is this what Vitter is saying? Where is his proof he demands from everyone else? What does your comments have to do with the price of rice--or in this case, Vitter's claim of misconduct. Written by Simone
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"After all, unlike Bill Clinton, no one has accused him of rape."...Nope- only MURDER.
Written by KjunLady
on 11/24/2008
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Steve -
Did you ever think to do a little homework before writing any of your anti-Vitter screeds? I am not here to speak for him, but your piece is sadly lacking in terms of telling the whole story. Let's start with Sen. Landrieu's reason for not backing the Dugas nomination. She claims it is because he failed to intervene in a whistle-blower lawsuit about insurance fraud, a suit that was dismissed. One might think that rather than letting the case rise or fall on its merits that the Senator hoped that if the plaintiff had the imprimatur of the US Attorney on his side that the case would prevail. I find that kind of scary that any senator might feel that it is the role of the US Attorney's office to enter a case, not because the law or the evidence requires it, but rather to use the force and influence of that office to change the course of justice. Let's also not forget that former Gov. Treen wrote to the President back in April promoting his son-in-law as a candidate claiming he would have the support of Sen. Vitter, when there is no indication that was true, nor that there had been any conversation whatsoever between Treen and Vitter about Lloyd Lunsford. And have you looked at their respective resumes and ABA ratings to see who might represent the best qualified choice? But you're overdue for a good anti-Vitter rant, I suppose, so why let any facts get in the way. Written by ts
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Don, I might be blind, but, I do not see your connection here. Ever think that Treen supported Landrieu since Landrieu is a moderate? Ever think that he such as other St. Tammany and Jefferson Parish officials supported Landrieu because of her efforts in Louisiana post Katrina. Were they all on the take? I think Vitter should be held accountable for making wild allegations without proof other than insinuations. Does he have a letter? I smoking gun? A smoking anything, other than pure speculation? Written by Mr. Magoo
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I think Vitter is fairly wise when he doesn't embarass himself, or Louisiana by going to Washington D.C. (Which is broke folks) panhandling for funds or welfare dollars that are going to be squandered or wasted anyways..... Let Landrieu and Jindal panhandle... Ohh wait, Jindal is too busy flying around the country campaigning on the taxpayers dime to be interested in going to D.C. and asking for money, or offering suggestions on how to save D.C. money AND take care of a pressing problem in Louisiana at the same time..... Yeah, he's REAL leadership material.... Good thing he has rootie pooties like Clarence rah-rah-rah-siskoombahing for him on the buzzy boards.... Written by
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this is a no brainer---why else would Treen have endorsed Landrieu ? more than one has said to me they thought the Treen endorsement hurt Kennedy more than any other single thing--and NOW, after election, this is revealed...Mary is one smart pol. now come on ? Take your hate Vitter blinders off ...Steve, as usual you attack Vitter....I believe both parties do this kind of crap and the common folks always find out after the election.
When Treen did it---I knew there was blind blood since Vitter beat him--but something smelled fishy and I knew Treen doesn't endorse many, if any state wide Dem.'s...geezzz.......where there's smoke there is fire. At least Vitter confessd his sin and asked for forgiveneess,,,Treen and Mary ought to own up to this pol. trick.. .....
Written by Don
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I'm curious David, do you have either anything good to say about any Republican or perhaps anything bad to say about any Democrat? ( I suspect not) Although I think he's "less than honorable" surely so too did many feminists who supported Bill Clinton think ill of him as well but still voted for him due to the likelyhood of him supporting the issues that mattered to them. Likewise many conservatives will vote for Vitter if they suspect he will vote on the Senate floor the way they want their senator to vote. If Bill Clinton's career could survive many instances of accusations of "improper conduct" towards women I suspect enough Republicans in Louisiana will vote to keep David Vitter in his Senate seat. After all, unlike Bill Clinton, no one has accused him of rape. Written by kpf
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The erstwhile Sen. Vitter has a lot of audacity and effrontery not to mention hypocrisy critictizing anyone. If the "Honorable" junior senator had any shame or respect for the citizenry of Louisiana, "his honor", the hypocrite himself would have resigned over a year ago. There's only two things not to like about Vitter: His Face!!! Written by Randall
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Great column. The man is scum. If he has proof, le him reveal it. That is the same burden he wants of the media and others who accuse him. Written by Gloria
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Bobby Jindal can advance his national ambitions and do the state a favor by challenging Vitter in 2010. As a senator Jindal can devote more time to running for president in 2012. Vitter has become an ineffective senator and an embarassment to Louisiana. Written by David Quidd
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Isn’t it interesting that US Senator David Vitter is quick to blast those who question his own ethics yet he is off and running—strongly insinuating that one of the most respected Louisiana Republicans—former Governor Dave Treen has attempted to engage in a quid pro quo deal with Vitter’s rival US Senator Mary Landrieu.
