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NFL Bountygate: How did Saints Payton, Loomis Try To Stop Gregg Williams

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paytonJust what chance Sean Payton’s appeal will be mitigated after voicing his appeal today in front of NFL commissioner Roger Goodell cannot be helped by the recent audio of Gregg Williams expletive plea to his New Orleans Saints team before the last 49’ers game in the NFL playoffs. (watch video below to hear audio)


Yet, according to  Adam Schefter via a tweet, “Sources close to Saints said Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis directed Gregg Williams to ensure no inappropriate conduct would occur.”


 We will have to just wait and see.  Probably the outcome will be just how did Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis try to stop the out-of-control Gregg Williams.  


Bernard Pollard

Ravens safety Bernard Pollard is irked by the Saints' bounty penalties.

Pollard isn't shy about expressing his opinion -- or taking a shot at NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

"From what I see, we're going to have to be running around with helmets and flags on, and I guess in about seven years," Pollard told a Houston radio station this week via "it's getting out of hand. I don't know what Goodell's trying to prove. I don't know what the NFL office is trying to prove. Guys are getting hit all the tine. We get hit. This is a freaking violent sport. We get hit.

Pollard was especially critical of the one-year suspension that Goodell dropped on Saints coach Sean Payton. Pollard indicated the penalties handed down won't change a thing about the violent nature of the game."

Pollard said forget the bounties because the way he's playing -- he's going to hit a player  straight in the mouth, And if he has a concussion by Pollard hitting him, Pollard said "I didn't mean to hurt him, but this is my game. It's his life or your life. It's my family or yours."

Pollard said this is a violent  game. "You can't take this away,"he said. "You suspend a man for a whole year? You suspend a man for a whole year, and now you're looking for players to suspend? This is outrageous. You've got to be kidding me.

"Goodell said he was going to take a dollar during the lockout. I guarantee  he didn't take a dollar that year. I guarantee he got every bit of that mill."

 Vikings and Parcells

The Vikings' rumored interest in Bill Parcells has been shot down by team spokesman Bob Hagan, who told that" there is no truth to the media reports.

Parcells will be 71 in August and wouldn't take over a team facing a three-to-four rebuilding job. But he would take a one-year deal with the Saints to help out his good friend Sean Payton, who is facing a season-long suspension.

The Saints still have enough offensive talent and they're adding enough defensive help  to win a Super Bowl in 2012. Parcells, who has two Super Bowl victories, would like to bask in Super Bowl glory without having to go through a rebuilding job.

The Vikings are still have ire toward the Saints from the 2009 NFC championship qame, but not enough to try and lure Parcells out of retirement when he's likely to take a one-year deal with the Saints as interim coach.

Rather than leaving the coaches and players with a to-do list while he's gone, Payton should leave them with the feeling that he trusts them and he knows what they can do what they've always done extremely well, former NFL coach Dick Vermeil told "And they can do that without him., and he will expect them to do it without him there."

What message would Vermeil give Payton?

"I'd say,, 'Sean, sometimes you learn a hell of a lot more about doing the right thing after making a mistake than you would have if you hadn't  never made the mistake. He can come out better, a stronger person. He's always shown class. If handled properly he can come out a stronger person and a better coach.

"He's a good person. He just made a mistake."

Vilma vs. King columnist Peter King believes the Saints' Jon Vilma may be gone with the Saints bringing in three good players and him facing a possible suspension from his alleged part in the bountygate.

Here's an exchange of tweets between them:

Peter King  @SI_PeterKing

Curtis Lofton, Chris Chamberlain, David Hawthorne. Get the message Jonathan Vilma?

Jonathan Vilma  @JonVilma51

@SI_PeterKing reckless journalism is beneath you sir. You've become a glorified blogger.

Peter King @SI_PeterKing

@[email protected]: Reckless journalism is beneath you sir. You've become a glorified blogger....It's the NFL investigation, Jonathan. Not me.

Jonathan Vilma  @JonVilma51

@SI_PeterKing the nfl investigation has NOTHING to do with ur tweet. You've now turned into a blogger who takes shots at players on twitter.

Any way you look at it, it hard to imagine the Hawthorne signing is a good omen for Vilma. It does seem like the Saints are preparing for the season without Vilma.



SOME hither, others yon: Former Rams linebacker Chris Chamberlain and special teams standout on his role with the Saints:" The Saints are expecting a lot of me on special teams as well as on defense. My goal is to win a starting linebacker spot and play there, but you never know how things are going to shake out.

"One of the reasons why the Saints wanted me was because of what I can do on special teams as well, so I'm a guy who feels wherever they put me in will help the team. I just want to help the team win and meet the common goal. I'm excited to see what my role is going to be, see how I can help out and do whatever they're going to ask me to do."...


The New Orleans Saints will face four AFC opponents in a five-game 2012 preseason schedule, including two contests that will be televised nationally in prime-time.


The Saints will kick off the 2012 preseason when they play the Arizona Cardinals on Sunday, August 5 in the 2012 Hall of Fame Game at Fawcett Stadium in Canton, Ohio. The game will be televised nationally on the NFL Network with kickoff scheduled for 7 p.m. CST. This will be the fifth time that the Saints have been one of the featured teams in the Hall of Fame game. The Saints and the Cardinals will take the field the day after the class of 2012 is formally enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame during ceremonies. Among the enshrinees will be T William Roaf, who was a first round draft pick of the Saints in 1993. Roaf played for the Black and Gold for nine seasons and was an annual Pro Bowl selection at left tackle from 1994-2000, setting a franchise record with seven selections. New Orleans has a 1-3 record in their four previous Hall of Fame Game appearances and a 4-0 preseason record against the Cardinals.


In Week 1 of the NFL preseason slate, the Saints will travel to face the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium. This will be the tenth time that the Saints and the Super Bowl XLVI finalists have faced off in the preseason, with the Patriots leading the series 5-4. The two teams last played in New England on August 12, 2010, a 27-24 Patriots win that was preceded by two days of joint practices. The last three preseason meetings between New Orleans and New England have taken place in Foxborough.


In Week 2, the Saints will host the Jacksonville Jaguars in the home opener at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome. This will be the first preseason contest between the Saints and Jaguars, who began play in 1995. The Carolina Panthers are the only other team that the Saints have never played in the preseason. The Saints defeated the Jaguars, 23-10, last season, on October 2 at EverBank Field.


New Orleans will host the Houston Texans on Saturday, August 25 in a prime-time contest nationally televised on CBS. The Saints and Texans have played each other every preseason since 2008, with the clubs splitting the meetings, 2-2, and the Texans leading the series 3-2 overall. On September 25, 2011, the teams met in the Superdome, with the Saints coming out on top with a dramatic 40-33 fourth quarter come-from-behind victory.


The Saints will close out the preseason at LP Field against the Tennessee Titans. With 28 previous meetings, the Houston Oilers/Titans franchise is New Orleans’ most common preseason opponent, with the Saints holding a 14-13-1 edge. The two teams have met for the preseason finales in 2010 and 2011 and the Saints pulled out 22-17 win in Nashville on December 11, 2011.


New Orleans went 2-2 in the 2011 preseason, having won at least two contests in every preseason since 2007.


The games that are not nationally televised will be regionally televised on CST and on WVUE FOX-8. All games can be heard on the New Orleans Saints Radio Network (WWL 870 AM and 105.3 FM locally). The dates and times for the New England, Jacksonville and Houston games will be announced at a future date.

SOME hither, others yon: LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers scored a 21 on his Wonderlic test at the Combine. His score means next to nothing in terms of his NFL projection. His score was good though. Here are some low scores on the Wonderlic: Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU (5); Dan Marino, QB, Pitt (16); C.J. Spiller, RB (10); Jeff George, QB, Illinois (10); Sebastian Janikowski, K, Florida State (9); Vince Young, QB, Texas (6); Pig Prather, S, Miss. State (5); Darren Davis, RB, Iowa State (4). Average score for QBs is 24, RBs 16, Ss 19...



Saints fan are still reeling from the stiff penalties handed down by the NFL over that bounty program. Man, Commissioner Roger Goodell is tough. In fact he just fined me $10,000 for writing this...Not a lot of you know this, but the Saints have offered bounties to their players and fans, too. But in this case it's Bounty paper towels to dry their tears...Hank Haney's tell all book about Tiger Woods is out and Tiger isn't happy. The good news? The demographics of likely buyers by a golf swing coach is that man's immediate family...


TOUGHEST TICKETS: Tickets to the Masters are widely know as the toughest tickets in sports to get.  Why are the tickets so expensive and hard to get?  This is because all tickets explicable directly from Augusta National Golf Course are sold out and have been for years. There was a waiting list opened in 1972, but it closed in 1978. Another waiting list was opened 22 years later in 2000, but was closed one year later. So, how do you get your hands on tickets to the Masters? Ticket brokers get their tickets from patrons who are eligible to buy tickets from Augusta National Golf Course. If you on going this route, then shop early and bring your checkbook.Tickets to the Masters go fast. Be prepared to spend several thousands of dollars for a ticket...

by Ed Staton and Bayobuzz Staff

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